Corsair H70 picture - Released tomorrow? (updated)

[halfwaythere]

What a shame dude. Looks like the gods smiled on you today.

Another review:

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/c...r_h70_review/3

I'm not gonna say it again but its really hard to trick the laws of physics. Too bad this hasn't stopped Corsair from trying. I hope for their sake at least one reviewer 'manages' to put the H70 14 degrees above the H50.

[Bodkin]

^ I never trust that website. The in the video reviews they guy always has a Asus t shirt on, even when reviewing motherboards ect. Also did he test in a case or on that bench behind him? With regards to the H70, no you cant bend the laws of physics, but i think it will make a great cooler in the small environment I have planed

[Manicdan]

there is something wacky with that review

an H50 as intake is doing better than the H70 with 2 fans, which leads me to believe the messed up something.
theres also no specs for what fans were used for other coolers and thus were comparing apples to mystery fruit

[halfwaythere]

One thing I don't understand is why pay more for the H70 when the H50 seems to be equal or even better and all that really needs is a better fan. I mean slap a couple of Slip streams on an H50 and you're good to go.

[Manicdan]

one thing i dont understand is how a H50 can be better when they didnt spend time doing R&D for a worse product

2x the surface area for the radiator, and a better base.

i think ill wait for someone to do a review that didnt take 15 minutes

[halfwaythere]

Dude smaller pump and a bigger rad versus a bigger pump and a smaller rad. Why would you assume the first one is better?

[Manicdan]

does smaller pump mean weaker pump?
EDIT: cause they said its better. meaning they did something different and tested it for better performance

whats with all this hate?

[halfwaythere]

'They said its better' - thats precious dude. Calling bull on marketing claims equals hating?

Corsair must be enjoying the biggest community of gullible customers.

[Manicdan]

umm, stating negative opinions without any basis as facts is hating in my book

why cant you just wait for a good review before you bash a product?

[Bodkin]

^ +1 more evidence needed before going off the wall

[halfwaythere]

http://hardocp.com/article/2010/08/0..._first_install

Is this good enough for yall? Lemme translate that for you: the H70 with 2 fans bested the H50 with 1 fans by 2 degrees.

I think you'll soon owe me an apology because the fanboy attitude doesn't do you any justice.

[Manicdan]

try reading more:

Parting Thoughts

Keep in mind that we have not used the proper install instructions for either the H50 or H70...

Again, a proper review is on the way that will follow the Corsair instructions....

I like the H70 and the H50 units. I think the H70s are going to be able to handle some bigger heat loads than the H5, but with our current setup I don't think we are pushing the units very hard.

[halfwaythere]

Don't get me started on the 'proper' way of mounting. Actually there is no proper way since pulling hot air from the case decreases performance and pushing hot air inside messes up the air flow and heats up the other components. You know as well as I do the H70 isn't going to beat the H50 that bad and its going to be left behind by something like the NH-D14 or HR-02 at anything from low noise to high rpm.

And in case you haven't noticed experienced reviewers have a more subtle way of saying that a product sucks.

[Vapor]

Any shots of the internals of the block yet?

[Manicdan]

all i asked you to do was wait for a proper review
then you posted one you think is proper and i pointed out that its their introduction to the unit and are even telling people to wait for official results

what we know compared to H50:
2x the surface area for radiator
2 fans within package
400 extra RPMs on those fans

it sounds horribly impossible for them to mess it up, unless they somehow put in a pump too weak to push water fast enough to move 250W of heat.

and then theres the point that users can try to install it in various ways. i have mine set up as exhaust because my gpus vent out the back of the case, while i have clean air coming in right ontop of the cpu from the side of the case. if i used it as intake, i would be breathing in air from the gpus. buf if i had gpus with no exhaust out the back, i would use it as an intake. or i can try to install it on the front panel under my cdrom drive since i have so many open slots (i currently have 120mm fan there already)

and honestly how bad is it to have hot air moving across things like VRMs and RAM? the air itself is only a few degrees hotter, it sure isnt 80C air just cause the cpu is at 80C. hot airflow is better than stagnant air, since no airflow is 0.00 C/W rating, which equals overheating.

as for comparing to other HS/F, are we comparing similar fans? what if someone decided to buy their own? sure it adds to the cost, but it gives you qualities you may want to match your needs, of either silence or more power.

[halfwaythere]

So in a nutshell what you're saying is there really isn't a proper way of mounting but its more of a 'whatever suits ones needs' situations. Would I be so very wrong if I consider the hardocp pre-test more relevant for real users because they depicted a real situation and not something Corsair tells you is right? I'm off for now. Maybe you'll get your wish for some serious testing until next time.

[Manicdan]

with a standard HS/F you have 2 ways to mount it, facing the back, or facing up. some do not let you choose that option at all, then you can change the fans to kinda be intake and exhaust, but your likely to just circulate the same air

with a H50/H70 you can do intake or exhaust in a few different positions on the case, or even build a shroud so its completely excluded from the same air your other components use. each option offers vastly different results and not all can be tested, and not everyone needs the same setup or cares to for some extra work for even better results.

even up till now, everything you say is negative, you couldnt even admit that you care to wait for a full test.

[CrimInalA]

isn't this the review you have all been waiting for ?
H70 and H50 with dual fan

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=25823

[Manicdan]

isn't this the review you have all been waiting for ?
H70 and H50 with dual fan

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=25823

honestly no,

no internal shots
no flow speed tests
no comparison using non stock fans
on comparison of intake and exhaust in a good air flow and bad airflow case

i know i ask alot, but thats why we have many review sites and hopefully each will test a little of it.

they also noted in that review that the Noctua NH-D14 was too big to fit facing the back, and had to face it up. (is it really that incompatible with cases?, it was in a freaking Obsidian case)

[lkiller123]

http://hardocp.com/article/2010/08/0..._first_install

Is this good enough for yall? Lemme translate that for you: the H70 with 2 fans bested the H50 with 1 fans by 2 degrees.

I think you'll soon owe me an apology because the fanboy attitude doesn't do you any justice.

Corsair H70 CPU Cooler - First Install

It is not even a review. Let's wait for a relevent review (or Vapor) before bashing on this.

[BeepBeep2]

lol at that hexus review showing intel stock cooler beating DH-N14 by a margin...

[Iconyu]

lol at that hexus review showing intel stock cooler beating DH-N14 by a margin...

Actually the stock cooler with the 6 cores is pretty beefy, overclocked and underload it's listed as beating the H50.

This whole H70 buzz has been a eye opener in many ways, I might go high end water after all.

[BeepBeep2]

So in a nutshell what you're saying is there really isn't a proper way of mounting but its more of a 'whatever suits ones needs' situations. Would I be so very wrong if I consider the hardocp pre-test more relevant for real users because they depicted a real situation and not something Corsair tells you is right? I'm off for now. Maybe you'll get your wish for some serious testing until next time.

You must hate Corsair 0_o.

Just because the pump is smaller doesnt mean it's weaker.

Go stare at a Jingway pump for 3 hours then look at a Laing DDC and you will understand what I mean.

I sort of wish corsair would have went with 3/8ID tubing at least, it might have offered a few degrees or so.

[Manicdan]

tub size is really irrelevant, the opening on cpu blocks is super tiny in comparison

my old TDX had a custom plate and i made it like the size of a uncooked grain of rice

as long as the tubing isnt super restrictive, its fine, which is why i wanted to know flow rate differences between old and new

[Vapor]

If the pump is anything like that from the H50 (and according to Redbeard, specs are basically unchanged, only size is different), then the H70's pump is incredibly weak.

H50's flowrate was ~.2GPM....hard to measure the flowrate accurately in a hurry without altering (in this case, lowering) the flowrate. Was at the lower limit of what available instruments could measure anyway, so it wouldn't have been that accurate without a flowmeter meant for lower flowrates.

After my vacation I plan to test the H50's block as a block and as a pump+block, i.e., how it performs against other modern blocks when radiator isn't a factor