Elpida Hyper Graveyard

[Hondacity]

how can they be retarded? the way i see it they're going for a die shrink from 50nm to 40nm and 35nm[later this yr]

Reducing the size of the features in DRAM typically increases chip speed
and reduces power consumption, as well as lowering production costs as more chips
can be made from each silicon wafer.

[BenchZowner]

Honda, MGH-E = EOL, trust me.
If you want MGH-E DIMMs rush it, and don't expect to see any GTX2's available again, so GT 2000C7 = instant buy button hit

[BeepBeep2]

how can they be retarded? the way i see it they're going for a die shrink from 50nm to 40nm and 35nm[later this yr]

Then why cant they figure out how to shrink the Hyper MGH-E die?

It's been EOL for a while and DDR3 is certainly not getting faster.

[BenchZowner]

Then why cant they figure out how to shrink the Hyper MGH-E die?

It's been EOL for a while and DDR3 is certainly not getting faster.

It can get faster, and it will more than likely get faster sooner or later.
Problem is only a few manufacturers are still trying to get some 1Gbit high end ICs nailed down, the vast majority of the mem manufacturers are focused on NAND memory.

[Hondacity]

Honda, MGH-E = EOL, trust me.
If you want MGH-E DIMMs rush it, and don't expect to see any GTX2's available again, so GT 2000C7 = instant buy button hit

i'm not really looking for MGH-E.

looking @ sf3d's kingston hyper x ..they are EDJ1108BDBG DJ they're doing quite well. and they're the new die revision "D"
on air @ 1.84v ...if they were frozen maybe it can go faster. its still pretty good compared to PSC or Samsungs

[BenchZowner]

i'm not really looking for MGH-E.

looking @ sf3d's kingston hyper x ..they are EDJ1108BDBG DJ they're doing quite well. and they're the new die revision "D"
on air @ 1.84v ...if they were frozen maybe it can go faster. its still pretty good compared to PSC or Samsungs

I had a BDBG kit, Kingston HyperX too, but I can't say I was impressed by it for extreme benchmarking

The BDBG's are also EOL'd lol

[Hondacity]

they are eOLD lol

not sure if your rams were DJ / GN / GL Class....

sf3d's were DJ ...yours is probably class AE?

GN and GL ..will be better?

[BenchZowner]

DJ, you can see it in the 2nd page pictures of the linked review

[cstkl1]

A sad day, mate^^

Don't they replace them with hyper mgh-e's any more?

nope no more
eventhough it was just one stick that was the issue

btw to that person who asked this was the second batch of elpida hypers after that temp worldwide hold april 09 batch

first batches were feb

u know its interesting
raja mentioned that the pcs strain the imc's more compare to elpida hypers
but i find better consistency with them on my e760 as to my hyper clocks

got some gskill pi 2k C6 atm.
and hmm was looking at corsair website

gtx1 looks like nanya
and gtx3 looks like pcs
so gtx4?? is the new revision of pcs.. the one that are doing 2k c6??

so any thoughts on gtx4 vs gskill pi 2k c6??
time to take out the p55 board again to check this

[Don_Dan]

gtx1 looks like nanya
and gtx3 looks like pcs
so gtx4?? is the new revision of pcs.. the one that are doing 2k c6??

GTX1 = GTX3, or am I missing something?

GTX1 is PSC as well, at least the sticks I have seen.

[cstkl1]

GTX1 = GTX3, or am I missing something?

GTX1 is PSC as well, at least the sticks I have seen.

tweaktown i think the sample they had were rev 8.xx

thats nanya afaik
and the pic shown by a a guy in i4mem for gtx3's are 7.xx
which should be psc

tweaktown
http://www.tweaktown.com/popImg.php?...14_03_full.jpg

i4mem user snappy1
http://i4memory.com/attachment.php?a...p;d=1281257591

[Don_Dan]

Then they changed chips...

Check matose's kit here. ver.7.1

[Hondacity]

DJ, you can see it in the 2nd page pictures of the linked review

missed it by a mile

i didnt know your webzone is getting lots of hits...

nope no more
eventhough it was just one stick that was the issue

btw to that person who asked this was the second batch of elpida hypers after that temp worldwide hold april 09 batch

first batches were feb

u know its interesting
raja mentioned that the pcs strain the imc's more compare to elpida hypers
but i find better consistency with them on my e760 as to my hyper clocks

got some gskill pi 2k C6 atm.
and hmm was looking at corsair website

gtx1 looks like nanya
and gtx3 looks like pcs
so gtx4?? is the new revision of pcs.. the one that are doing 2k c6??

so any thoughts on gtx4 vs gskill pi 2k c6??
time to take out the p55 board again to check this

how do you identify the new rev gtx1 is nanya?

[websmile]

how do you identify the new rev gtx1 is nanya?

By the Version number- you can find this information at the corsair DDR3 inqiry thread- version 8.x ist Nanya, ver. 7.x PSC

[SAE]

A lil OT here ^^

[websmile]

Yes-but all my Hypers are still alive, so I concentrate on helping by answering questions

[Raja@ASUS]

u know its interesting
raja mentioned that the pcs strain the imc's more compare to elpida hypers
but i find better consistency with them on my e760 as to my hyper clocks

Which PSC did I say that about? The newer stuff is similar in all ways to Elpida apart from tRCD. I'm running 12GB of PSC here at 7-9-8 DDR3-1900 which is good enough. I think you are confusing this for something older or for the tRCD deficit (in that context the Hyper part is easier to drive at lower access latency).

[cstkl1]

Which PSC did I say that about? The newer stuff is similar in all ways to Elpida apart from tRCD. I'm running 12GB of PSC here at 7-9-8 DDR3-1900 which is good enough. I think you are confusing this for something older or for the tRCD deficit (in that context the Hyper part is easier to drive at lower access latency).

yeah it was a while back

so bro the new psc are good??
how about that kit hiwa was using the gskill 2k Cl6??

are they like the 2533 gtx4's
or the 2400's which hmm sector 5 's etc all should be able to hit it??

[Raja@ASUS]

Well the PSC and Elpida BBSE variants are ok for CAS, but worse than the original Hyper parts for tRCD. This was probably a pre-requisite for long-term reliability.

[Royalk]

This is mine...Are they gonna to die?
Sometimes fails on CL7 DDR3-1800+ on my PII X4 955, but works well at 2000 7-7-7 on my i7 920.
Running at DDR3-1685 6-6-5-18-24-1T 1.7v on PII X4 955 right now.

[Hondacity]

prolly amd imc... if with intel imc ok...

[Royalk]

prolly amd imc... if with intel imc ok...

It shall be fine if just because of different IMC... being scared about Elpida Hyper itself.

[Hondacity]

its the "MNH-e" that had problems

[Royalk]

its the "MNH-e" that had problems

OK that's safe for me now...

[websmile]

I´m optimistic about my Hypers- no losses until now, and I cross fingers that it stays that way^^