MSI GTX 460 HAWK can reach 1Ghz mark :O

[ajaidev]

"MSI GeForce GTX 460 HAWK gets pixelized

Oh dear, a little birdie just flew in with some information and photo's. Looks like the MSI GeForce GTX 460 Cyclone release was just a prologue. As you guys know the GeForce GTX 460 is a big success in terms of value for money. On launch date we have seen a couple of customized boards already.

The originally clocked 675MHz product overclocks well, Roughly 800 MHz is very normal and with a little voltage tweaking 900 MHz is manageable. I just received a screenshot and PCB photo though of the MSI GeForce GTX 460 HAWK edition."

http://www.guru3d.com/news/msi-geforce-gtx-460-hawk/

GTX 460 @ 1ghz if stable would be pretty good in performance, specially after i saw its performance in 800mhz. Fermi scale good with freq increase because of some reason.

[RejZoR]

HD4890 and HD5850 were running at 1GHz quite some time ago. Nice to see NVIDIA is catching up as well.

[Manicdan]

notice the chart in kombuster, it was on for only 43 seconds and looks like it was still heating up.
and there was a second one behind the other windows too
something just feels odd here, although 1ghz does sound nice

[zalbard]

675MHz -> 1GHz is still quite impressive, though, no matter how you look at it.

[570091D]

HD4890 and HD5850 were running at 1GHz quite some time ago. Nice to see NVIDIA is catching up as well.

you of course remember that the shader clock on almost all nvidia cards is above 1ghz.... not that this really matters, comparing the clock speeds between amd and nvidia chips is a non-sequitur.

[K404]

Bet it isn't released as a 1GHz part.. same as the high-binned ATI equivalents.

[slaveondope]

notice the chart in kombuster, it was on for only 43 seconds and looks like it was still heating up.
and there was a second one behind the other windows too
something just feels odd here, although 1ghz does sound nice

I's call that an ATI substitute

[madcho]

you of course remember that the shader clock on almost all nvidia cards is above 1ghz.... not that this really matters, comparing the clock speeds between amd and nvidia chips is a non-sequitur.

I don't agree about that. The Shaders clock showed is not the internal real one. It's double pumped so they say double mhz.

But i agree 650 to 1ghz is awesome, but i would like to know what say my best friend : the Wattmeter and his girlfriend the sonometer.

[onethreehill]

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[saaya]

nice... but thats 1 card... :P
i dont think most cards will be able to hit this... and who knows what ambient temp and cooling and voltage this is with :P

[RSC]

nice... but thats 1 card... :P
i dont think most cards will be able to hit this... and who knows what ambient temp and cooling and voltage this is with :P

Obviously. The same thing happened with the 4890 @ 1GHz, everybody heard a lot about it, but actually seeing one do it... well that was a totally different story.

Bottom line, this is a marketing stunt, nothing more to it.

[[XC] Oj101]

HD4890 and HD5850 were running at 1GHz quite some time ago. Nice to see NVIDIA is catching up as well.

Well of couse clock speed is the ONLY thing that matters. I guess that's why a 2.4GHz Pentium 4 stomped all over the Athlon 3000+ @ 2.1GHz? Or the Phenom 2 965BE at stock speed of 3.4GHz runs away from the i7 975XE at its stock clock of 3.33GHz?

[HelixPC]

HD4890 and HD5850 were running at 1GHz quite some time ago. Nice to see NVIDIA is catching up as well.

I dont think you can actually say that, two different architectures.

[dartaz]

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[BababooeyHTJ]

HD4890 and HD5850 were running at 1GHz quite some time ago. Nice to see NVIDIA is catching up as well.

So was the MSI Lightning GTX275 IIRC. That doesn't mean that that or 4890 or even 5850 is as fast at 1ghz. Apples to oranges.

[zanzabar]

Obviously. The same thing happened with the 4890 @ 1GHz, everybody heard a lot about it, but actually seeing one do it... well that was a totally different story.

Bottom line, this is a marketing stunt, nothing more to it.

what do u mean, ive tried like 5 4890 reference and they all did 1GHZ, i can even put mine over 1075 but then im short on cooling (hex core and a 4890 on 1 pa120.2 while running 1k rpm or so fans is limiting). the only ati overclocking problem ive seen is that people equate the reference overlocks as what all will do but sapphire and xfx like to put out their POS cards and people dont notice that they are non reference and cannot change the voltage.


i had figured that with some voltage it would clock up to about 1ghz like the gf100 would with a huge amount of cooling, but this should be doable on air

[BababooeyHTJ]

what do u mean, ive tried like 5 4890 reference and they all did 1GHZ, i can even put mine over 1075 but then im short on cooling (hex core and a 4890 on 1 pa120.2 while running 1k rpm or so fans is limiting). the only ati overclocking problem ive seen is that people equate the reference overlocks as what all will do but sapphire and xfx like to put out their POS cards and people dont notice that they are non reference and cannot change the voltage.


i had figured that with some voltage it would clock up to about 1ghz like the gf100 would, but this should be doable on air

How do you people deal with the VRMs on those cards? A fullcover block? I'm afraid to touch the core voltage on my 280 due to the heat from the vrms. If I'm not mistaken the 280 also has even more vrms for the core than the 4890.

[zanzabar]

How do you people deal with the VRMs on those cards? A fullcover block? I'm afraid to touch the core voltage on my 280 due to the heat from the vrms. If I'm not mistaken the 280 also has even more vrms for the core than the 4890.

i think that the original g200 cards with the voltera use the same pwm as the 4890/4870. to cool them u can go with a full cover block, the termalright sink or i use the stock cooling plate for the PWM/ram and i have my rad fans blow right on them. the voltera pwm is also good to 120-140c so they are meant to get really hot

[generics_user]

How do you people deal with the VRMs on those cards? A fullcover block? I'm afraid to touch the core voltage on my 280 due to the heat from the vrms. If I'm not mistaken the 280 also has even more vrms for the core than the 4890.

full cover blocks; proper (and thick) thermal pads + careful screw tightening (less is more!)

my 4870 always stayed below 80° and thie 5850 is unter 60° under full load

but GTX280s are harder to mount as it doesn't have mounting holes lined up with the vrms (AFAIK)


nice to see some nvidia cards with huge overclocking headroom too; should be interesting to see how an overclocked gtx 460 does against 5770s@1ghz+ and 5850 @ 950mhz+

i wish there was a proper review with real test methods (like canucks) with 5770, gtx 460 and 5850 fully overclocked under water (ref designs)

[BababooeyHTJ]

i think that the original g200 cards with the voltera use the same pwm as the 4890/4870. to cool them u can go with a full cover block, the termalright sink or i use the stock cooling plate for the PWM/ram and i have my rad fans blow right on them. the voltera pwm is also good to 120-140c so they are meant to get really hot

Yeah, thats not the first time that I've heard that. I have a uni-sink in them now and they climb just over 90c. Sorry for going a bit off topic but where should you get concerned running them 24/7? I don't know how comfortable I would feel over 100c.

Thanks for the response zanzabar.

[zanzabar]

Yeah, thats not the first time that I've heard that. I have a uni-sink in them now and they climb just over 90c. Sorry for going a bit off topic but where should you get concerned running them 24/7? I don't know how comfortable I would feel over 100c.

last OT post, i run mine at a max of 127 as the power starts the fluctuate there, and it takes over 1.4V and like 75A to do that normally for me (except for summer.)

i would like one of the swiftech mcw60-4870 bases but they are like $80 still and i would only want to pay like $20 shipped since i would not use it for to long and its outdated.

[saaya]

i wouldnt say that volterra pwms are meant or designed to run hot
they CAN take a lot of heat but you should still try to keep em cool

[XSAlliN]

This brings back 10 years old memories in terms of CPU, back in 2000 both AMD and Intel released 1000 MHz capable processor like Athlon 1000 and some pentium III at similar speed. Than later that year Pentium IV was introduce at speed of 1400+ Mhz... So wouldn't mind seeing a HD 6850 at 1400 Mhz later this year...

I know 6 years ago we'd expect to see 10.000 MHz capable CPU's by now - yet that was a stupid idea, but still is 2000 MHz GPU's would be nice... preferably at 50W in idle and 100W in load... and also priced ad max 200$.

[TheGreenFoX]

I know 6 years ago we'd expect to see 10.000 MHz capable CPU's by now - yet that was a stupid idea, but still is 2000 MHz GPU's would be nice... preferably at 50W in idle and 100W in load... and also priced ad max 200$.

You forgot eternal world peace and pink unicorn running on rainbows while money fall from the sky as rain

I think thats little too optimistic, but who knows

[Sn0wm@n]

HD4890 and HD5850 were running at 1GHz quite some time ago. Nice to see NVIDIA is catching up as well.

but nvidia's shader arent suposed to be different ???? so it would make em 2ghz shaders right???