Intel plans to deliberately limit Sandy Bridge overclocking

[Chumbucket843]

I think hes talking about this
http://software.intel.com/en-us/intel-vtune/

i want the free one. im not paying $700 for vtune because it's not worth it for me. all i want to do is check out statistics on ipc, branch prediction, caching etc.

[NBF]

i want the free one. im not paying $700 for vtune because it's not worth it for me. all i want to do is check out statistics on ipc, branch prediction, caching etc.

Its free for evaluation for a 30 day period.

[Hornet331]

i want the free one. im not paying $700 for vtune because it's not worth it for me. all i want to do is check out statistics on ipc, branch prediction, caching etc.

http://software.intel.com/en-us/arti...ware-download/

but only for linux. But v-tune offers a lot of information for basic information you also could try: http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/perfmonitor.html

edit: damn didn't noticed perfmon doesn't work with nehalem...

and thx for the reply Francois.

[Sam_oslo]

@Drwho?
The mainstream Sandy Bridge is getting out earlier than expected, maybe the same will be the case for high-end SB?. Do you have any estimate when we can expect the real existing stuff?

[terrace215]

@Drwho?
The mainstream Sandy Bridge is getting out earlier than expected,

It's been shipments in Q4, launch in Q1 for a long time now. Some dope wrote an article saying it was coming early after misinterpreting Otellini's CC comments that the SB *ramp would be faster* due to strong customer interest. Intel did not say anything was coming *sooner*, and Intel has repeatedly said that customers do not care for Q4 launches, they prefer Q1... so even if they COULD launch it in Q4... they wouldn't.

[cegras]

It's been shipments in Q4, launch in Q1 for a long time now. Some dope wrote an article saying it was coming early after misinterpreting Otellini's CC comments that the SB *ramp would be faster* due to strong customer interest. Intel did not say anything was coming *sooner*, and Intel has repeatedly said that customers do not care for Q4 launches, they prefer Q1... so even if they COULD launch it in Q4... they wouldn't.

Indeed.

[Drwho?]

@Drwho?
The mainstream Sandy Bridge is getting out earlier than expected, maybe the same will be the case for high-end SB?. Do you have any estimate when we can expect the real existing stuff?

I can t answer those kind of Question ... I love my job too much ;-)

[-Sweeper_]

drwho, can you say anything about the third gen atom?

[Drwho?]

drwho, can you say anything about the third gen atom?

yeap, it is much faster than arm ... with better low power ...
(Now, i ll get a lot of hate mails ) hehehehe ...


This is my opinion, it is ok to disagree, not ok to crusify me

Let 's close this thread ... all was said ... Intel does not have a crazy plan to stop overclocking, otherwise, i would have hanged the dudes in my attic (Metaphore)

[villa1n]

yeap, it is much faster than arm ... with better low power ...
(Now, i ll get a lot of hate mails ) hehehehe ...


This is my opinion, it is ok to disagree, not ok to crusify me

Let 's close this thread ... all was said ... Intel does not have a crazy plan to stop overclocking, otherwise, i would have hanged the dudes in my attic (Metaphore)

Now we just need dual core versions, running meego with a decent gui ^^

[Raja@ASUS]

yeap, it is much faster than arm ... with better low power ...
(Now, i ll get a lot of hate mails ) hehehehe ...


This is my opinion, it is ok to disagree, not ok to crusify me

Let 's close this thread ... all was said ... Intel does not have a crazy plan to stop overclocking, otherwise, i would have hanged the dudes in my attic (Metaphore)

Any chance of pushing for external reference voltage control for internal receiver lines on critical signal stages? I know all references are internally derived (makes sense from many perspectives). This stuff is all automated now and I wonder if we can increase clocking margins somewhat on some processors with a manual shift - the effects of sub-zero temperatures on certain Tx stages can change voltage swing.

[Movieman]

I can t answer those kind of Question ... I love my job too much ;-)

Can you answer mine from above?
Thanks for the info..
Will we see dual socket SB boards?
( and when,chips I can get, boards you have all locked away for yourself!

and one more..will SB be limited to 4 cores?

[Iconyu]

Can you answer mine from above?
Thanks for the info..
Will we see dual socket SB boards?
( and when,chips I can get, boards you have all locked away for yourself!

and one more..will SB be limited to 4 cores?

Actually he's already mentioned dual socket SB.

Well, sandy bridge generation will have dual CPU too , what was your point?

[Hornet331]

and one more..will SB be limited to 4 cores?

Why shoul SB limited to 4 cores?

SB is the name for the whole µarch, so we get teh full spectrum. Form dualcores up to 8+ cores.

[Sam_oslo]

Actually he's already mentioned dual socket SB.

Why shoul SB limited to 4 cores?

SB is the name for the whole µarch, so we get teh full spectrum. Form dualcores up to 8+ cores.

Hush guys, MM is asking tricky questions to get him talking about the real deal. He didn't fall for my trick tho.

[Johnny87au]

Can you answer mine from above?
Thanks for the info..
Will we see dual socket SB boards?
( and when,chips I can get, boards you have all locked away for yourself!

and one more..will SB be limited to 4 cores?

4 cores for 1156, not sure of 1355