Dirt2 PC vs NFS Shift PC, which would last longer on replayability?

[Cpl Ledanek]

What are your specs ,game plays very nice to me using I'm using a MOMO Racing Force steering wheel.

same here, Momo....btw enjoying this snow...er, I mean pollen were having
87 degrees here in Bolingbrook

[Mickey Padge]

I have a Q9650@4050, 4GB RAM and a HD5870

The input lag cannot be eliminated, tried multiple mods/tweaks, read ahead 0 etc.....

I just recently re-installed Win7, still the same results. The controller/gamepad gameplay is poor and the car handling is terrible. Tried a 360 controller, and a PS3 clone, with the same results, analogue or D-Pad....

Maybe it was designed for using a wheel, but I don't want one of those, I am old school, and like to play racing games with a D-Pad, this is the only game where that is simply not possible.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfccnHbRgRg

[Frag Maniac]

LOL, I'm playing DiRT 2 with a lousy P4, X1950Pro, 2GB RAM rig on AGP platform with XP. I use lowest settings except I have Particles at Low vs Off so I can see the dirt/water spray and Water to Med vs Low so it has at least some reflections and ripples. I'm amazed at how good it looks even at settings that low, esp since my CPU is below min reqs. It speaks well to the optimization they put into the game. I know CPU is relegated to non graphics stuff, but it can be hard on your GPU when your CPU struggles. The only place the slight lag affects my results is in Rally. I average mid 30s in FPS on rallies, and you need to get 40 or more to not affect your car speed, which can be a bit slower even when the lag is slight. Still managing to beat it on Hardcore though.

Here's a few of my latest vids, all All Stars races in Malaysia:

Rally in BMW Z4 http://www.youtube.com/user/MrFragMa.../1/qZaa-FVUf5M

Team RAID in Bowler Nemesis http://www.youtube.com/user/MrFragMa.../4/YHt0o5PUuZg

Landrush in Toyota FJ Cruiser http://www.youtube.com/user/MrFragMa.../0/d0idrET8xU4

[demonkevy666]

LOL, I'm playing DiRT 2 with a lousy P4, X1950Pro, 2GB RAM rig on AGP platform with XP. I use lowest settings except I have Particles at Low vs Off so I can see the dirt/water spray and Water to Med vs Low so it has at least some reflections and ripples. I'm amazed at how good it looks even at settings that low, esp since my CPU is below min reqs. It speaks well to the optimization they put into the game. I know CPU is relegated to non graphics stuff, but it can be hard on your GPU when your CPU struggles. The only place the slight lag affects my results is in Rally. I average mid 30s in FPS on rallies, and you need to get 40 or more to not affect your car speed, which can be a bit slower even when the lag is slight. Still managing to beat it on Hardcore though.

Here's a few of my latest vids, all All Stars races in Malaysia:

Rally in BMW Z4 http://www.youtube.com/user/MrFragMa.../1/qZaa-FVUf5M

Team RAID in Bowler Nemesis http://www.youtube.com/user/MrFragMa.../4/YHt0o5PUuZg

Landrush in Toyota FJ Cruiser http://www.youtube.com/user/MrFragMa.../0/d0idrET8xU4

when I slid in game I get passed on the out side. even when I go out to in and out again

I can not slid and win a race at all :/ this annoying me now. I'm almost done with this game now but I still hate rally cross >_<

[Frag Maniac]

Which rallycross track are you having that problem with and what cars are you using? The right cars for the right tracks helps, also setting them up right and knowing on which tracks sliding helps, and also what tracks need good braking and line vs sliding. Typically sliding too much can hurt you in rally of any kind, with the exception of a quick, well aligned powersldie vs drift.

Make a brief vid if you can, even if with the free Fraps demo that allows 30 second recordings, and I'll be able to see better how you can improve. You can also pause game, stop Fraps, start Fraps, restart the replay to edit together fairly seamless videos of 30 sec segments. Thats' what Cpl Ledanek's been doing, and I used to do it too, until I bought Fraps. It's not just for the hobby of sharing vids, it's a great visual training tool too.

[Hell Hound]

I have a Q9650@4050, 4GB RAM and a HD5870

The input lag cannot be eliminated, tried multiple mods/tweaks, read ahead 0 etc.....

I just recently re-installed Win7, still the same results. The controller/gamepad gameplay is poor and the car handling is terrible. Tried a 360 controller, and a PS3 clone, with the same results, analogue or D-Pad....

Maybe it was designed for using a wheel, but I don't want one of those, I am old school, and like to play racing games with a D-Pad, this is the only game where that is simply not possible.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfccnHbRgRg

Set sensitivity high as you can control it,this is like increasing dpi on a mouse,and set steering dead zone to 0% acceleration and brakes to low values as well.

[Cpl Ledanek]

I'm glad to start a poll first, and decided with DIRT2. :thumbsup:
I'm trying to narrow down the tweaking on my aging MOMO to get the driving experience better.

It's definitely not Richard Burns Rally. No Scandinavian-flick here. Sliding and drifting does add to the excitement.
The closest you can get to a Sim experience with DIRT2 is driving-inside-view, going over water, and having only 1 second-reaction when the wiper reveals a tight turn ahead of you.
I really like the replay TV CHASE CAMERA. My HD will get so full easily just recording the replays.
here's another replay
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE461iNU9ds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbAOEoK1B_Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HHEMuu1xDQ

[Mickey Padge]

Set sensitivity high as you can control it,this is like increasing dpi on a mouse,and set steering dead zone to 0% acceleration and brakes to low values as well.

Thanks for the tip, but I have tried everything, it still handles like crap! The steering lag is intentional , the game is designed to play that way for some reason only the dev's will know

[Cpl Ledanek]

Thanks for the tip, but I have tried everything, it still handles like crap! The steering lag is intentional , the game is designed to play that way for some reason only the dev's will know

look up Speedfreak/ Speedfreek... it's a $10 attachment for D-pad controllers
Some ppl swear by it.
Just to throw a curve ball, I know some who plays this game on joystick, then again, he's a helo pilot...it's a Saitek joystick

[Mickey Padge]

That is some crazy D-Pad attachment right there! I guess it's for peeps with sweaty thumbs!

[Knight203]

I love DiRT 2, it really is alot of fun.
Here are a few of my videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2MaDBKmTHI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADCs5txzRhc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEZi1UdC_6w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMeA9X56C18

[zaraza]

damn you guys!!! I looked at your videos and am gonna play again lol.

[BustaH]

I love DiRT 2, it really is alot of fun.
Here are a few of my videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2MaDBKmTHI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADCs5txzRhc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEZi1UdC_6w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMeA9X56C18

I agree Dirt 2 is a great game, multiplayer only though...its a lot of fun.

[andressergio]

I like Dirt2 much more but i liked Shift also but could never ever get rid of its stutters on curves...i saw this problem on lots of ppl but seems they never found the issue

[Hell Hound]

Sound's like overheating check gpu core/vrm temps.No stutters here until my vrm temp go's to 90c.It uses 100% gpu all the time.

[andressergio]

Sound's like overheating check gpu core/vrm temps.No stutters here until my vrm temp go's to 90c.It uses 100% gpu all the time.

no way mate im on water topping 55C its the game, been reading month of it and theres no solution for those who has stutter its the same issue that rfactor and GTR have

and im a very good tester but

[demonkevy666]

no way mate im on water topping 55C its the game, been reading month of it and theres no solution for those who has stutter its the same issue that rfactor and GTR have

and im a very good tester but

what studder ? on curves ? can you fraps that ?

I get huge studder in GTA:iv with out 4gbs of ram like frames will drop to 8fps then back up to 23 or 35 or 45 and I'm running a 5870 :/ 1gb.
(other stick is another computer right now.)
from you sig it looks you have nvida gpu's check if physx is enable when playing I know suppose to cpu for shift but an updated driver might be putting on the gpu instead.

[andressergio]

what studder ? on curves ? can you fraps that ?

I get huge studder in GTA:iv with out 4gbs of ram like frames will drop to 8fps then back up to 23 or 35 or 45 and I'm running a 5870 :/ 1gb.
(other stick is another computer right now.)
from you sig it looks you have nvida gpu's check if physx is enable when playing I know suppose to cpu for shift but an updated driver might be putting on the gpu instead.

yes fraps dont go low at all i have all maxed out, and if i go to low low settings happens the same...google the probelm you will find a zillion users with this same problem, its the only one thing i could never get rid of

[demonkevy666]

yes fraps dont go low at all i have all maxed out, and if i go to low low settings happens the same...google the probelm you will find a zillion users with this same problem, its the only one thing i could never get rid of

hhmm I played shift with crossfire 3870 before.
haven't played it on my 5870, I'm going to have to test now.
the only I noticed was if I turned off blur my Fps went from 75fps to 26fps.

[andressergio]

hhmm I played shift with crossfire 3870 before.
haven't played it on my 5870, I'm going to have to test now.
the only I noticed was if I turned off blur my Fps went from 75fps to 26fps.

i love the game but i play it certain tracks inside car its the only way...and its not fps is stutter and not from the GTX285 y play all games on maxed out settings and my card is under water voltmoded...its some issue on the game + hardware he likes

[Hell Hound]

GTX 295 = NO STUTTER http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4tXH...eature=related

Explains its a driver issue.

vid suggest trying diff drivers good luck.

[Cpl Ledanek]

some custome skins and had to make one more vid before my trial Sony Vega laps
enjoy the vid

[demonkevy666]

I seem to be getting a large frame skip like it drops to 0fps then I'm like 5 seconds farther on track it doesn't actually stop completely on screen. O_o ?
I'm using a single 5870 right now a cruddy phenom 9850 be for now.

[andressergio]

GTX 295 = NO STUTTER http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4tXH...eature=related

Explains its a driver issue.

vid suggest trying diff drivers good luck.

thanks mate i tried that and its the same thing....

look i tried...

11 drivers + fresh install + XP32 + W764 + my 2 mobo DDR2 and DDR3, 2 different water coolers + 2 PSU + 2 chips only thing is that the game does not like my VGA....

[Final8ty]

Thanks for the tip, but I have tried everything, it still handles like crap! The steering lag is intentional , the game is designed to play that way for some reason only the dev's will know

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