New Feser Radiator

[wesley]

I really dislike the fact that Feser charges so much for their radiators, I really can't see myself spending that much on a radiator when the whole watercooling hobby is as expensive as it is. But I guess some can say thats what differentiates me between Xtreme and normal.

There's Xtreme price and there's Xtreme performance. The price differential for the extra 1-2c is quite nuts to be honest. Oh well, one man's meat.

[Humminn55]

Ah, I generally avoid soiling my browser and hardware when I don't have to so, I hadn't looked there.

As for the "layered" 2 pass you speculated on, looks like a given considering the fitting layout on the end of the tank. It's not a new concept, seeing that it's already being used by the GTX.

Yeah, I forgot about the GTX. Of course, Koolance has a rad with its fittings at the end, too, but only at the end, not in both places.

C'est la vie.....given Feser's pricing and product schemes in the past, this "miraculous new" rad will probably be nothing more than a rehash of existing products from other companies....just with a "Screw You" premium from Feser.

[ell]

Ah, I generally avoid soiling my browser and hardware when I don't have to so, I hadn't looked there.

Why do some people speak of TFC this way? what have they done to upset you so much? really curious, I've only ever used xchangers, I think there great

[Waterlogged]

Why do some people speak of TFC this way? what have they done to upset you so much? really curious, I've only ever used xchangers, I think there great

Mario and Martin (owners of Fester) are a couple of complete scumbags. They're insulting and rude, I've seen a copy of some IM communications between Mario and a product reviewer, when that reviewer didn't have a gushing review of a Fester product, let's just say it wasn't pretty. It looked like a schoolyard bully (Mario) trying to get some kids lunch money @ recess. I've also seen them threaten other vendors with physical violence through a 3rd party (one of their shills), on this very site. . .and don't even get me started on their marketing BS. They are a couple of ppl the world would clearly be better off without.

[Kvickstick]

Mario and Martin (owners of Fester) are a couple of complete scumbags. They're insulting and rude, I've seen a copy of some IM communications between Mario and a product reviewer, when that reviewer didn't have a gushing review of a Fester product, let's just say it wasn't pretty. It looked like a schoolyard bully (Mario) trying to get some kids lunch money @ recess. I've also seen them threaten other vendors with physical violence through a 3rd party (one of their shills), on this very site. . .and don't even get me started on their marketing BS. They are a couple of ppl the world would clearly be better off without.

This was completely new to me, i had no idea. Thanks for the insight.

[the_dope_chaud]

why has nobody mentioned the awful voice on their site ?
Its the most awful thing ever, especially at 3 in the morning.

All of the above
+ bad graphic design

[Alexandr0s]

why has nobody mentioned the awful voice on their site ?
Its the most awful thing ever, especially at 3 in the morning.

All of the above
+ bad graphic design

1: Even the people that buy Feser stuff rarely go onto their site.

2: No one likes a voice that sounds like Gunther, so we stay away from it at all cost.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPrnduGtgmc

[Waterlogged]

why has nobody mentioned the awful voice on their site ?
Its the most awful thing ever, especially at 3 in the morning.

All of the above
+ bad graphic design

Because when I do go there, I hit the mute button on my keyboard before I ever do the Google search for the address.

[iandh]

They could have built the core with a lot of tiny round tubes running through punched fins, think similar to a heatpipe tower cooler. I've thought about doing that for a couple years now. I just wanted to post now so that if that is their design, nobody can claim I stole it.

Time will tell.

[JoeBar]

Feser: Full of innovative ideas...

[ell]

Mario and Martin (owners of Fester) are a couple of complete scumbags. They're insulting and rude, I've seen a copy of some IM communications between Mario and a product reviewer, when that reviewer didn't have a gushing review of a Fester product, let's just say it wasn't pretty. It looked like a schoolyard bully (Mario) trying to get some kids lunch money @ recess. I've also seen them threaten other vendors with physical violence through a 3rd party (one of their shills), on this very site. . .and don't even get me started on their marketing BS. They are a couple of ppl the world would clearly be better off without.

wow. thats xtreme. they sound like a pair of s! cheers for the info, will avoid in the future

[ScottALot]

They could have built the core with a lot of tiny round tubes running through punched fins, think similar to a heatpipe tower cooler. I've thought about doing that for a couple years now. I just wanted to post now so that if that is their design, nobody can claim I stole it.

Time will tell.

You're going to end up guessing incorrectly and then I'll steal your idea muahaha

[iandh]

You're going to end up guessing incorrectly and then I'll steal your idea muahaha

Lol I was just getting it up there just in case...

I really have been planning on that for a while though. I think a really high performance rad could be made with a hundred or so thin wall small diameter copper tubes puched through aluminum fins, somewhat similar to modern heatpipe coolers.

The restriction would be similar but the coolant/metal surface area ratio would be higher.

[Kanzy]

why has nobody mentioned the awful voice on their site ?
Its the most awful thing ever, especially at 3 in the morning.

All of the above
+ bad graphic design

God I can't stand of that voice thing, makes my cats unhappy

[Waterlogged]

While we're guessing at design possibilities. Knowing Fester's penchant for "original" ideas, I'm gonna say dimples.

sounds like an RRR post . . .well, without the racial slurs

. . .and may your Jäger machine be empty.

[JoeChuo]

+ bad graphic design and SOUND! Surprise me every time visit their site. Haha!

[gmat]

Lol I was just getting it up there just in case...

I really have been planning on that for a while though. I think a really high performance rad could be made with a hundred or so thin wall small diameter copper tubes puched through aluminum fins, somewhat similar to modern heatpipe coolers.

The restriction would be similar but the coolant/metal surface area ratio would be higher.

To be honest, more than one person thought of adapting the recent advances in CPU tower coolers. I want to see a design similar to TRUE with staggered stacked fins adapted to watercooling, that would probably be rather expensive to produce (but again, maybe not if the current production tools from say, Thermalright can be reused) and i'd be very curious to see the actual results. I'm also surprised that TR didnt try to make one (they made a waterblock after all)..

[WaterFlex]

Feser is the best

[Church]

OH Yes! Feser is the best truly! Every self-respecting LC-er should have primochill T3, feser rads and TT for rest of components in his case!
Have i mentioned miracleous effects of using snake oil aswell? I might even make flash presentation with sound to ilustrate never-before gains
P.S.
Using unicorn horns instead of silver killcoils bring better results too.

[345T4R]

I see topic change
i like feser design with all the colors - but I've heard only negative about there aggresive marketing handling ...
Perhaps a reason for stopping Xchangers production

[DarthBeavis]

They are focusing on their new line of radiators which will be more expansive than the Xchangers. I say let Skinnee get them and test them . . .and let numbers speak. If I wanted to get into cat fights and such I would at at a different forum.

[rheydt]

exactly, if its performance is really good, I will consider to buy one, but the price should not be extremely high

[Waterlogged]

. . .but the price should not be extremely high

You can count on it for 2 very simple reasons.

1. It's Fester

2. It's some supposed new miracle technology

[DarthBeavis]

You can count on it for 2 very simple reasons.

1. It's Fester

2. It's some supposed new miracle technology

1. test
2. test

Let Skinnee do his job . . .then we will have a basis for commenting.

[Waterlogged]

1. test
2. test

Let Skinnee do his job . . .then we will have a basis for commenting.

1. could care less

2. could care less

This "new tech" could cure cancer for all I care and I'll still not buy it. They've crossed far to many lines of decent corporate behavior with other companies and friends of mine to receive any kind of second chance.