Can anyone rate the primochill Typhoon III?

[Rapt0r]

I hope some other company can buy over the design and manufacture it,it is a pity to see such a great design go down the drain.

[meanmoe]

Agreed. IMO, the problem lies in testing. The product was advertised well before launch, creating demand and I doubt any serious testing was done to make sure it worked properly over the long term - they just wanted to get it out there. But there was no way Geno could have known about the problems to come from his end. He did his job, and he did it well.

Not all of them leaked though. My issue was with the Ghost fittings. I overtightened them and they broke.

My res never leaked. It does have some cracking and the choice of material wasn't the greatest, but I agree with karbonkid. Great design, poor execution.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that neither of you have any formal design/physical engineering experience.

I like Geno also... and in my mind as well, Geno gets an A for effort, but you do not qualify a design based on effort or how much you like a guy.

Testing was mentioned. Testing is part of the design process. You test to (not an all inclusive list)
a) drive down uncertainty during a design process and
b) to verify a design or validate a manufacturing process

in a case of limited testing, standard practice is to over design like hell. In this case, the design was verified by consumers... like me, and it leaked 3 times.

So my conclusion is that:
1) Geno gets and A for effort. He did what he knew. He's a nice guy and I like him.
2) The T3 is an epic failure due to the high failure rate.
3) Due partly to the hype on this forum, I became a sucker and lost money and time.
4) Primochill went above and beyond, but after the fact. (after they took our money)

Nothing personal - believe me I know we live and we learn, but lets be honest about it. Rapt0r, If I was a manufacturer I wouldn't touch the design without factoring in a large effort for re-design (based on the T3 concept).

MT, you got lucky (for now), but not all of the people that you recommended it to were as lucky. No hard feelings -- just victims of poor engineering practice.

Now all that being said, I very much appreciate the fact that someone - Geno in this case - had the balls to go out on their own and push a unique and truly innovative idea to the maketplace - KK, in this we agree very much. I also, in general, appreciate the forum for spotlighting new ideas and new products.

We want to see more innovation like this, but with this hard lesson learned.

[the finisher]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that neither of you have any formal design/physical engineering experience.

I like Geno also... and in my mind as well, Geno gets an A for effort, but you do not qualify a design based on effort or how much you like a guy.

Testing was mentioned. Testing is part of the design process. You test to (not an all inclusive list)
a) drive down uncertainty during a design process and
b) to verify a design or validate a manufacturing process

in a case of limited testing, standard practice is to over design like hell. In this case, the design was verified by consumers... like me, and it leaked 3 times.

So my conclusion is that:
1) Geno gets and A for effort. He did what he knew. He's a nice guy and I like him.
2) The T3 is an epic failure due to the high failure rate.
3) Due partly to the hype on this forum, I became a sucker and lost money and time.
4) Primochill went above and beyond, but after the fact. (after they took our money)

Nothing personal - believe me I know we live and we learn, but lets be honest about it. Rapt0r, If I was a manufacturer I wouldn't touch the design without factoring in a large effort for re-design (based on the T3 concept).

MT, you got lucky (for now), but not all of the people that you recommended it to were as lucky. No hard feelings -- just victims of poor engineering practice.

Now all that being said, I very much appreciate the fact that someone - Geno in this case - had the balls to go out on their own and push a unique and truly innovative idea to the maketplace - KK, in this we agree very much. I also, in general, appreciate the forum for spotlighting new ideas and new products.

We want to see more innovation like this, but with this hard lesson learned.

meanmoe, I could have written this, your spot on IMO, nothing to add.

Too bad, this sucks, oh well.

[Barso]

Has Primochill stated what they will be doing with any faulty T3's now the design has been cancelled?
What will happen if mine leaks again?

[the finisher]

This all sounds like Primo will not be able to cover failures for the next three years.
Obviously the rev A stock is as prone to failure as the earlier Chinese made ones.

Seems like very early adopters got the best ever made.

Now I'm wondering if Brian would ship me $120 worth of LTR of my choice, least I'd get something useful for my hard earned money. Also the tubing is all they have that I'd ever use.

I'll never spend another dime there now.

[DTR]

.....Seems like very early adopters got the best ever made....

Seems like I'll have a chance to get another early adopter special - best ever made version - as option 3 for those with defective T3's is:

=> Wait for Typhoon IV release(which you will get a free replacement). We anticipate this to be ready in 30-45 days. Will be a Delrin version with tons of new updates.

This might be the end-all-solution....er....please don't burst my bubble with facts to the contrary...lol

[Waterlogged]

=> Wait for Typhoon IV release(which you will get a free replacement). We anticipate this to be ready in 30-45 days. Will be a Delrin version with tons of new updates.

This might be the end-all-solution....er....please don't burst my bubble with facts to the contrary...lol

Do you have a e-mail conformation on that?

I know you said not to burst your bubble but last i heard, Geno (BoxGods) didn't sell them that version and there was a bit of a serious falling out between them.

[millertime359]

Seems like I'll have a chance to get another early adopter special - best ever made version - as option 3 for those with defective T3's is:

=> Wait for Typhoon IV release(which you will get a free replacement). We anticipate this to be ready in 30-45 days. Will be a Delrin version with tons of new updates.

This might be the end-all-solution....er....please don't burst my bubble with facts to the contrary...lol

I'm curious where you saw this too. Primochill's site says they are stopping all production and there will be no revisions.

Geno hinted that he still wants to make the Delrin model on his own, but I haven't seen anything more about that myself.