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    Quote Originally Posted by Philwong View Post
    Gabe, I don't quite understand how the screws can remedy the contact issue instead of the standoffs. Could you please elaborate?

    By the way, Michelle will be sending me some missing screws and spacers for the Apogee GT/AM2 plate I ordered from PPCS. Can I request the revised screws for my Komodo 5800 to be shipped over as well? Thanks.

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    We shipped with spring screws (nvidia style). Tension is limited.

    Regular screws have no such limitation, thus allowing better contact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    We shipped with spring screws (nvidia style). Tension is limited.

    Regular screws have no such limitation, thus allowing better contact.
    Thanks for the clarification.

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    Tonight I ran some tests with the komodo using Furmark 1.8 at 1920x1080 and found out a few things about the 5870 in my machine. At least in Furmark, upping the voltage and clock speeds way over 1000core 1325mem doesn't give much more in the way of fps performance. 1 or 2fps isn't worth the extra overclock for me on this gfx card. 975x1325 is where I'm going to keep it for the time being anyway. Oh, and I'm happy with these temps. The Komodo just laughs at games now, even at the highest settings. Furmark cranked up to 1920x1080 heats it up a bit though.


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    If there is too much gap above the VRMs for optimum cooling with thermal pads and way too much gap for paste then why not shim the area (or each VRM) with metal. Stick the shim on with Ceramique. I've modified CPU coolers this way. Jewelers supply will have thin gauge copper and silver. Probably order it online. The Bezel (99.9% pure silver) material may be perfect and can also be used for "kill coils". Comes in various widths. Better than warping/ bending the card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnymossville View Post
    Tonight I ran some tests with the komodo using Furmark 1.8 at 1920x1080 and found out a few things about the 5870 in my machine. At least in Furmark, upping the voltage and clock speeds way over 1000core 1325mem doesn't give much more in the way of fps performance. 1 or 2fps isn't worth the extra overclock for me on this gfx card. 975x1325 is where I'm going to keep it for the time being anyway. Oh, and I'm happy with these temps. The Komodo just laughs at games now, even at the highest settings. Furmark cranked up to 1920x1080 heats it up a bit though.

    Furmark 1.8 Stability Test,
    1920x1080,
    Xtreme Burning Mode,
    Displacement mapping, Post FX on.
    Wanna try benching with 8x MSAA and check out the VRM temp?

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    Question Gabe: does this block support Non-Reference Cards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmpy224 View Post
    Question Gabe: does this block support Non-Reference Cards?
    Answer for him. No.

    What card are you using? MSI Lightning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaganII View Post
    If there is too much gap above the VRMs for optimum cooling with thermal pads and way too much gap for paste then why not shim the area (or each VRM) with metal. Stick the shim on with Ceramique. I've modified CPU coolers this way. Jewelers supply will have thin gauge copper and silver. Probably order it online. The Bezel (99.9% pure silver) material may be perfect and can also be used for "kill coils". Comes in various widths. Better than warping/ bending the card.
    This is a good general suggestion.

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    my block has the spring screws who should i email to get the replacement ones? havent installed the block yet but have removed the pads. have been waiting for my 2nd card to come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Circaflex View Post
    my block has the spring screws who should i email to get the replacement ones? havent installed the block yet but have removed the pads. have been waiting for my 2nd card to come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philwong View Post
    Wanna try benching with 8x MSAA and check out the VRM temp?

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    I'll give that a try and let you know. have you tried it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnymossville View Post
    I'll give that a try and let you know. have you tried it?
    Yes, and monitor your VRM temp very closely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philwong View Post
    Michelle
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    Phil
    thanks phil just shot her an email


    On a side note, are we still recommended to use grease on vrms now that we have these new screws? What about new standoffs? I have already taken then pads off my block, whats the new general consensus on this and what setup is optimal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Circaflex View Post
    thanks phil just shot her an email


    On a side note, are we still recommended to use grease on vrms now that we have these new screws? What about new standoffs? I have already taken then pads off my block, whats the new general consensus on this and what setup is optimal.
    #1 You do not need new standoffs.
    #2 You should use new screws without springs for mounting as you can apply significantly more pressure for better contact.
    #3 Paste is better than pads with this option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philwong View Post
    Answer for him. No.

    What card are you using? MSI Lightning?

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    Sapphire HD 5850.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philwong View Post
    Yes, and monitor your VRM temp very closely.

    Phil

    It looks like 8x on the MSAA doesn't effect fps much if at all, but it does warm it up another 3-5c across the board. I think if I had a better radiator I could get better temps, but I'm not complaining.

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    And as you see here, less volts and a bit less core and memory speed have almost no effect on fps (at least on powercolor 5870 cards), but temps go down quite a bit.

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    and a random idle temps screengrab.

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    Not bad at all..

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    what is the best way to remove the pads & the sticky tape from the block?

    I have removed all pads as advised and put articsilver Céramique on the vrm's & ram & as5 on the gpu. Is this correct?

    with the new screws the ram is still not touching the plate of the komodo.

    any ideas? also my card doesnt seem to work after i did all this, i was extremely careful when replacing it.

    edit: just read about the x bracket. i completely removed this and just used 4 screws with the plastic washer. still nothing
    does this mean my card is stuffed/short circuited?

    i doubt my retailer is going to rma it after I took the stock hsf off
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    nice mate, loving the swiftech 5800 Series Gpu block, hi-5

    Another thing I find funny is AMD/Intel would snipe any of our Moms on a grocery run if it meant good quarterly results, and you are forever whining about what feser did?

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    Can someone post the picture of old screws and new screws? I'm from Indonesia and bought Komodo from PPCS about 2 months ago when I realized that Komodo have the "new" screws regarding Gabe's statement.
    Komodo still in its package because I haven't instaled yet in my 5850, I'm on duty in other province far away my home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadhana View Post
    Can someone post the picture of old screws and new screws? I'm from Indonesia and bought Komodo from PPCS about 2 months ago when I realized that Komodo have the "new" screws regarding Gabe's statement.
    Komodo still in its package because I haven't instaled yet in my 5850, I'm on duty in other province far away my home.
    The new screws are slightly less than 6mm tall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadhana View Post
    Can someone post the picture of old screws and new screws? I'm from Indonesia and bought Komodo from PPCS about 2 months ago when I realized that Komodo have the "new" screws regarding Gabe's statement.
    Komodo still in its package because I haven't instaled yet in my 5850, I'm on duty in other province far away my home.
    all you got to do is email michelle@swiftech.com, and she'll mail you a set anywhere you are, except other planets in the solar system of course
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    all you got to do is email michelle@swiftech.com, and she'll mail you a set anywhere you are, except other planets in the solar system of course
    Excellent after sales service!!

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