msi 790 fx-gd70 thread

[theoldtimer]

Yeah, the second one isn't zipped. I just downloaded it and its a full 1M file. I hope to give it a try in a little bit. Thanks for the file massman

[theoldtimer]

I did flash the new bios today. I installed XP Pro SP3 32-bit and then tested a little. The bios disabling feature for turbo core and C-n-Q appear to work, at least for the little bit if testing I did. The X15 NB multi worked and the ram 1:4 divider worked.

I did try wPrime 1024 in this same series of tests but by the end of the test only cores #4 and #5 were still running the bench test?

Most of the system spec. is in the SS except the cooling. It’s ambient temperature water cooling (for the CPU only). The room temperature was 70F +/- (21C) so the water was very close to being the same temperature.

The cooling system consists of the pieces listed below.

Geo Metro (small car) radiator 169 sq. INS. With factory 12v fan
2 X Swiftech MCP655 pumps, one to feed the radiator and one from the radiator to feed the coolant reservoir.
1 X 120 GPH 120v pond pump (self priming) in the coolant reservoir to feed the CPU water block.
Swiftech Apogee XT water block using a homegrown fabricated adaptor to mount the water block to the AMD processor.
Reservoir containing 4 gallons of distilled water mixed with water wetter.

[ridney]

great results oldtimer! post more maybe there still is a problem with cnq on your run with wprime, i have experienced that with 1b0 bios during 3d06 cpu test and it ran only with 3 cores at default clocks and 3 cores at x4 multi

[massman]

Looks great!

[theoldtimer]

great results oldtimer! post more maybe there still is a problem with cnq on your run with wprime, i have experienced that with 1b0 bios during 3d06 cpu test and it ran only with 3 cores at default clocks and 3 cores at x4 multi

Thanks ridney, Yeah, I may try some 3D06 in XP today. I don't think the processor is getting too hot maybe its the MB's power section but I'm not sure?

Looks great!

Thanks massman.

[theoldtimer]

I ran a few more bench tests today all under chilled water on the CPU. I really think that turbo core and C-n-Q are disabled. So far I’d have to say good job by the people that worked on this bios at least for finding a way to disable turbo core and C-n-Q. Thuban and this new bios put a little life back in this thing.

Below are a few 3D tests in Vista 32-bit. These are the first runs after installing the OS. I think the process may complete these three tests at a little higher clock but not Vantage as it wouldn’t run the CPU tests even at this clock. I may try to find what clocks Vantage will run to completion tomorrow?

3D03, I don’t remember the exact GPU clocks but I do know the slides were maxed out in CCC in all the tests.


3D05


3D06

[charged3800z24]

Can you squeeze any more out, you can break 30k

[theoldtimer]

I sure would like to top 30K but 500+ points is a big jump. I think it may have another 200 points in it but 500+?? Of course I'll give her a try.

[ridney]

good to know it's working for you oldtimer! that's a massive 3d06 score, only a few more points and a few more tries to break 30k

i tested 1c2 bios and found out that on my 1055T i can clock IMC up to 2880 with less volts (1.35v) compared to 1b0 which needs 1.475v, which is a good thing, but i also noticed that i needed more juice to keep my cores stable. using the same bios settings i was running with 1b0, i can no longer boot with turbo on and with it turned off it was still unstable. I also noticed that they are loosening timings with ram settings at auto and when oc'd also needed more volts to keep it stable. well, that's just my opinion and non-scientific observation on a 3 hour test, your results may differ.

[drmrlordx]

I flashed my 790fx-gd70 to 1c2 in preparation for a future Thuban and it seems to have hosed my board.
I had it running perfectly with 1.10b2 and a Sargas (Sempron 140) in there as a stand-in for my dead x4 635.

The flash process appeared to be successful (using the MSI Forum Flash Tool), but after I powered down
and reset the CMOS with the button, all I got at boot was the dreaded FF. Anyone had this problem with
1c2 yet? I'm also having trouble getting bios recovery to work, even though it seems that the boot block
should still be intact.

Did I screw up my BIOS or did I update to a BIOS that simply does not support Sargas for some reason?
I don't have any other CPUs available for testing at the moment (aside from my dead 635), but if BIOS
recovery is what I have to do then I can go down that road, provided I can get my board to cooperate.

[mav2000]

Are you using the ami bios recovery method?

[drmrlordx]

I'm using (or going to be using) the USB stick recovery method described by Bas here:

http://forum.msi.com.tw/index.php?topic=119375.0

Since this method does not involve renaming the BIOS file to AMIBOOT.ROM (I think,
it is not clear whether or not the use of a USB stick for recovery requires that filename),
I'll have to figure out which file it's going to want during recovery. My board shipped
with 1.7 so my guess is it's going to want that one. I have yet to get any video
signals even when hitting ctrl + home to force BIOS recovery so I'm either flying
blind, not using a ps/2 keyboard as I should, or just not waiting long enough
after powering on with ctrl + home.

Or my bootblock is toast and the board is bricked.

[mav2000]

keep holding ctrl+home for like a minute and see what happens...it takes around 20-30 seconds to come up...also keep both a file with the latest bios without renaming and a file with the latest bios but renamed as above..

[beta]

1C0 (1.12 final) is online

[mav2000]

If anyone tries it let us know the feedback...what are the changes btw?

[moorhen2]

Just an Agesa code update,as far as i know,i think theoldtimer is using 1.12,or a beta of that bios.

[beta]

changelog from msi-forum.de

- Fix system still change PState at idle mode when used Rev E CPU and "AMD Turbo Core Technology" function is disabled
- Patch not display OC fail messages when memory frequency over 1800MHz
- Update AgesaMSI eModule to V3_6.06

[=SOC= Admiral]

1.12 (1.C) is great even has turbo disable.

[MadDias]

is anyone using a 5970 or two 5870 in crossfire together with a 1090t (or 1055t) on this board?
i have two users that can reproduce the "ht sync flood error" by opening 3 or more cpu-z screens, when crossfire is enabled.
can anyone in here confirm this?
if yes
please send a ticket to the msi customer support using this link
http://support.msi.com/index.php
i felt like i was the only one having this issue, but there must be more out there.
let´s get msi to put out a bios that properly supports newer gfx cards.
crossfire alone doesn´t seem to be the problem, cause theoldtimer is using two 4870x2 cards without any issues.

[drmrlordx]

keep holding ctrl+home for like a minute and see what happens...it takes around 20-30 seconds to come up...also keep both a file with the latest bios without renaming and a file with the latest bios but renamed as above..

I went ahead and put 1.7 on the USB stick plus the 1.7 BIOS file renamed to AMIBOOT.ROM and held ctrl+home for a minute, but no dice. I'm not getting a video signal and I've not noticed any activity on the keyboard lights or harddrive light that would somehow indicate that BIOS recovery is going on.

I know 1.7 isn't the latest or greatest, but it was the shipping BIOS, so if it's going to look for anything, it's probably going to look for that. Either that or 1.5 perhaps . . . I might have to experiment with different BIOS files.

Any other thoughts on what I can do to remedy this situation?

[theoldtimer]

I figure you guys are getting tired of me posting all of these bench test SS’s up so I’ll stick these last few up and let it be.

I always liked this MB especially the four PCIe x16 slots at double spacing. So when the Thuban bios support became available I pulled this old GD70 out and dusted it off for a few more tests.

Chilled water CPU cooling
3D03


3D05


Vantage


Cinebench 10


Cinebench 11.5

[drmrlordx]

Impressive. I like how you beat the Opteron in Cinebench 11.5 with half the cores but without twice the clockspeed. Go go NB/RAM tweaking!

[mav2000]

Awesome...and dont worry we are loving this so keep going...some air benches would be great as well.

@drmr...well that looks like you will not be able to recover the bios...I had a similar problem once, but it was fixed by the MSI support guys. If the mobo does not come on at all, there is no way you can flash the bios...

[drmrlordx]

@drmr...well that looks like you will not be able to recover the bios...I had a similar problem once, but it was fixed by the MSI support guys. If the mobo does not come on at all, there is no way you can flash the bios...

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. It will probably be RMA time for this board, and that's only if they will take it. Such is life.

[MadDias]

is there nobody running crossfire with two or more hd5xx0´s or a hd5970 and a x6 cpu??
i´m really having a hard time with those "ht sync flood errors".

can anyone running crossfire with a thuban open up 3 or more cpu-z windows?