MA790X / MA790XT-UD4P 790X bugs fixes etc etc.....

[gOtVoltage]

BrokenWallOk ...

Are you using Sata for the DVD and all HD's? I actually have a Samsung DVD SAta that refuses to load the OS if i dont have it set as Master Device in the boot menu for my optical drives.



Ill look that up later.

This will set the nb/ht the same clocks ,,what happens if you set the Multis like this:

17x @210 htt
11x HT = 2310mhz
11X NB = 2310mhz

Using the 800/divider

your ram will OC a hair but should still be stable..

Keep all voltages as they are...

Now try and load and run what you do to make the Stuff happen...Iv enoticed that in the OS under my Vista if my HT didnt like the Freqency i was running even at stock it would hang my OS when Hibernating or sometimes Lose the ACC option when set to Hybrid with Manual Cores Enabled...

With F10 i run Hybrid Auto cores All...and Keep COres 3/4 on Auto for Unlocking...Ive found that sometimes when in Manual mode it can dro the unlock too....


...setting the Above on the 11x for HT ..is usually good up to 2550 with no problems on the 800/1066 dividers..

.667 ive noticed can hang some times when using 12x 13x or 9x HT.. when i go higher HTT above 230/240 i use 7x/8x ht..


If you are using Sata Opticals try another port and see what happens too. Remeber the Boot Optical must be the one set a s primary for it to load a OS..

Anyway ..so what happens @ 2300HT/2300NB.

Im curiouse.. If 2300ht is a go ,set NB @ 2550mhz .(12x) keep HT @11x.

this will get you a little more speed with out tweaking any volts.



17x 210.....I know you settings are good ... try to get stuff to act up and let me know...

[BrokenWall]

I am using IDE DVD drives and no SATA is enabled on my board at all, all my SATA Drives are running off a LSI Raid Controller.

[gOtVoltage]

You notice any differance in cpu performance running @ 210x17?

As for the Satas , that eliminates the Sata causing problems with SB.NB mobo chipset.


Have you tried using S1 instead of S1& S3 sleep mode.?

Sometime this can help..

By default i use S1+S3...

I know when my Bios were corrupted it took about three back to back flashes to make things stick on F9..As for F10A it Flashed first time and never dropped the Unlock unless i didnt set the Hybrid Mode after the Flash...

Come to think if it dosnt Autmatically say Firm ware is being changed After you flashed to F10A, .. The Flash may not of took 100%...or was not set to defaults afterwords..


... Ive noticed some times that if i used Auto settings or EPP it would drop the ACC unlock ...I manually set timings for all my ram on this Mobo and that helps alot for stability too.

Last ,
Do you have another OS like Vista or XP32bit or Win732bit that could be tried ona single drive?

I used to run Win7 32bit on this Mobo and it dosnt have theat problem ! If it didnt have that problem..Maybe its a 64bit driver for ACPI function...Thats the only other thing i can think of ATM.

CnQ is turned of to right? Its all a big crap shoot..Something needs to work..

ill post some screens of my Bios So you can see what i have set. For Volts and so forth.

[BrokenWall]

I never use CnQ and do not let my PC sleep or Hibernate, its a desktop that has to be on 24/7. Sleep and Hibernate are for laptops. so the issue is only during restarts. I haven't been able to test any new Bios settings. Its the Euro open right now have to pay attention

[gOtVoltage]

I never use CnQ and do not let my PC sleep or Hibernate, its a desktop that has to be on 24/7. Sleep and Hibernate are for laptops. so the issue is only during restarts. I haven't been able to test any new Bios settings. Its the Euro open right now have to pay attention

Unstand completely......

My Bios is set to S3 and the new F10A goes Above 270htt now with Xfour cores..the F9 stopped at 269 and would give AHCI errors when pushing HTT..


So at least therea a good thing going with higher HTT on this Mobo ..

4200mhz with 269 was the most i could get stable before crashing Raid lol.

4300+ with 270+ now is nice at least.
(you must raise the SB and NB chipset volts some to do so)
This Mobo isnt know for High HTT so 270 is pushing it in terms of what it can do with any Bios.


790X UD4P F10A Bios and 4300mhz 555 @ X4cores
Screen shots of F10 Bios and the Volts i use.

SB is 1.3v and NB chipset is 1.2v 24/7.






Double check these settings ..What i use for Win7/Vista32..


Notice my temp and CPU volts@4300mhz... This is 24/7 on Ambiant water.

[felix_w]

Your screenshots showing voltages truly support your nickname....

What ram do you have @ 2.3V ?

[gOtVoltage]

Your screenshots showing voltages truly support your nickname....

What ram do you have @ 2.3V ?

Not the New ONEs there First Gen Viper 9600's by Patriot(MADE IN USA)..Old D9's..there great...

The DDR2/DDR3 IMC handle 2.3 volt sticks easy...


Update........290htt is my new Max with F10A....
Can probally sqeeze some more, as reality sets in ,this Mobo isnt the One to push for that. ..
No Complaints here..F10A look the same as F9 so that makes setting stuff the same.
For starters F9 @270htt was not at all stable and could not even keep My bios from getting Corrupted when running Raid on Sata..

F10A @290htt and the ability to use Higher/lower TRFC on the same Ram now with out crashing is a nice improvement..
Seems this Bios is more Optimized for Ram with a slightly higher HTT limit..
Both go hand in hand , so this dosnt surprize me...

Also My lowest stable CPUx multi can now go lower and use of all Ram dividers is nice to0. F9 was around 13x/12.5xCPU using 8xHT or less. That has now changed as well .....I can use 11x and lower CPU multi and all ram dividers with out seeing stuff like 3900mhz when its set to 3400mhz and so forth..



By all means ,,
F10A is the new TOP BIOS. Even if you don tplan on running a new X6... Its not so easy to tweak , For use of High HTT but its by far the best one yet.
I dont have a x6 so i dont know if it has the Core throttle Option or if its hidden.....hm I need something else i can unlock and torture.

[ASharp]

i dont know if it has the Core throttle Option or if its hidden

Yes, the board has an option to disable turbo core if that's what you're referring to. I believe you can also disable up to four of the six cores if you like.

[gOtVoltage]

Yes, the board has an option to disable turbo core if that's what you're referring to. I believe you can also disable up to four of the six cores if you like.

Thats a real plus .

The option of Core disable anhd Hybrid is very good news when using Thurban.. Especially for what i want to do down the road...

Im really liking this Mobo a lot..It may not the best for High HTT . It simply unlocks with stability and that is what counts for me ATM.

[richierich]

Somehow I think I may have killed my Super Talent SSD......very odd. I will have to investigate some more tomorrow morning.

[ASharp]

It simply unlocks with stability and that is what counts for me ATM.

Funny you should say that because my 550BE actually unlocked and the board gradually started crapping out until it wouldn't boot into Windows properly anymore.

Ah well, maybe I just got a bad chip. Either way, I've got an X6 now so I guess it doesn't really matter anymore.

[DEVIL K-ce]

For me 300HTT 24/7, with two tested chips ; unlocked sempron 140 and 555be also unlocked to X4. Not to mouch tweaking for this, not funny is mobo cannot go more than 340HTT on ln2

[gOtVoltage]

For me 300HTT 24/7, with two tested chips ; unlocked sempron 140 and 555be also unlocked to X4. Not to mouch tweaking for this, not funny is mobo cannot go more than 340HTT on ln2

The HTT can vary a lot from each Mobo made. Not all are equal especially chips.

Both the Mobo and CPU muct be up to the task...My Mobo is weaker than other UD4P's that ive set up for Friends...My M3A79T clocks all my X2/X4's above 300htt Easily when compared. This is using the Same cooling to rule out if a CPU not cold enuff...

As for a CPU slowly going down Hill,, Add more Volts to the Vcore for the Same clock you were allways at..If it helps and becomes stable is most likely CPU losing its gradability.(degradation).Some cases it can be that Mobo's PWM's may be getting weak after prolonged use and not keeping Things stable when booting.

Theres so many factors involved as we venture to install unlocked chips . This alone is a 50/50 chance the Mobo and Chip is up to it. If the CPU unlocks and the NB dosnt go above 2600mhz with 1.3v on the NBvid , It most likely is a weak CPU IMC.. If one has a spare DDR3 mobo, that unlocks ,, you would then test that same CHip again.. If it unlocks and is 100% stable you have a weak Mobo or DDR2 IMC but the DDR3 IMC would remain strong.

In all the simple of things just takes a little tweaking to find out.

If you Try X4 Air/Watter @4300mhz @300HTT... Its not so easy( at least what ive seen)..The extra CPU load and use of Onboard SB750(Sata Raid 0) makes it a little Harder.

I keep my HTT down around 220 or so for 24/7 on this Mobo for reliability reasons. I know its not the best Clocker and some Mobo's will die real fast when pushed up to much.

gOtVolTage

[BeepBeep2]

The HTT can vary a lot from each Mobo made. Not all are equal especially chips.

Both the Mobo and CPU muct be up to the task...My Mobo is weaker than other UD4P's that ive set up for Friends...My M3A79T clocks all my X2/X4's above 300htt Easily when compared. This is using the Same cooling to rule out if a CPU not cold enuff...

As for a CPU slowly going down Hill,, Add more Volts to the Vcore for the Same clock you were allways at..If it helps and becomes stable is most likely CPU losing its gradability.(degradation).Some cases it can be that Mobo's PWM's may be getting weak after prolonged use and not keeping Things stable when booting.

Theres so many factors involved as we venture to install unlocked chips . This alone is a 50/50 chance the Mobo and Chip is up to it. If the CPU unlocks and the NB dosnt go above 2600mhz with 1.3v on the NBvid , It most likely is a weak CPU IMC.. If one has a spare DDR3 mobo, that unlocks ,, you would then test that same CHip again.. If it unlocks and is 100% stable you have a weak Mobo or DDR2 IMC but the DDR3 IMC would remain strong.

In all the simple of things just takes a little tweaking to find out.

If you Try X4 Air/Watter @4300mhz @300HTT... Its not so easy( at least what ive seen)..The extra CPU load and use of Onboard SB750(Sata Raid 0) makes it a little Harder.

I keep my HTT down around 220 or so for 24/7 on this Mobo for reliability reasons. I know its not the best Clocker and some Mobo's will die real fast when pushed up to much.

gOtVolTage

You got that right. As you see in my sig, I've RMA'ed my 890GX board due to ...it dying when I pushed HTT. I hit 270 and my mouse started jumping around...275 and it reset never to boot again.

[gOtVoltage]

Bummer,,

I know that feeling Beep

Sometimes High HTT will take out the Lan first or other I/O's... Then all else will go down hill from there. If you Catch it in time it can live a happy life with around stock HTT.. This goes for any Mobo...


Ive read numerouse threads on ( Ive lost my lan or my Mouse is allways stuck and the Best( No KeyBoard) at boot up)) All of which happened when the OC on the HTT went downhill.

Ive Toasted a few My self, Nothing like giving Mobo CPR at 3am

[richierich]

Is it possible for high HTT to take out my SSD? Or did it get messed up due to too many quick shutdowns?

[Tom128]

I have the MA790XT-UD4P and was planning on getting a 1055T soon here. I upgraded to the BIOS F8C and I get random BSOD's that I can't really explain. Finally I flashed back to F7 and the problem went away. Anyone else have this experience? I wanted to get one of these X6's but need a board that can run it. So far the UD4P and my M3A79T Deluxe are not getting official love

[richierich]

I can't seem to get anything stable at 300HTT anymore...I have a feeling my board is dying, since it already took out my SSD.

[gOtVoltage]

I can't seem to get anything stable at 300HTT anymore...I have a feeling my board is dying, since it already took out my SSD.

Yes It can hurt SSD,,

It can wipe out anything connected on any of the I/O's ,,Lan,,SB/NBchipset_Sata ports and even USB devices/drives..

HTT is the Heart of All Things....It fails everything fails.
When things get corrupted your OS You may be@ the HTT limits . Sometimes you may not have used Enuff SBVolts to keep it Stable @higher Freqency.
AMD Chipsets really get Hot ,especially going above 325/350HTT with fans and New paste on them.

Note: When things go south.
"U"Win a Corrupt OS or Raid...If your really luckY"U"Fry things like KFC.

[richierich]

nm, lol Windows 7 installed the wrong drivers for my LAN port

[gOtVoltage]

nm, lol Windows 7 installed the wrong drivers for my LAN port

UD4P XT and X use the Same Lan Same Driver Vista Win7
Windows update WILL DISABLE THE Lan Driver After it updates it with the Wrong Version lol.

You need to get The Lan Driver from Gigabyte or use the One from the Install CD only for 790X DDR2/ 790XT DDR3 UD4P ..

[richierich]

That's what I used before, somehow it automatically installed or something, lol. Probably from all the times my system froze during stress testing. Anyways, currently stable 13.5x300 4.05GHz / 2.7GHz 1.424vcore (fluctuates to 1.44v sometimes)......why do I get the feeling my G. Skill Ecos aren't that great (swapped back my OCZ Gold DDR3s back in)

[gOtVoltage]

Wish my DDR2 Ran @1600mhz Those Golds are good bang for buck. I grab em for all my friends when they setup new rigs and or usually Patriot when i cant get Golds for em.

I buy DDR3 just not for Me...Im so content with DDR2 ive been playing with Cas4 @1T on this Mobo For kicks again and again

[richierich]

I got some very good OCZ Gold sticks PC3-8500....got em from Amazon for like $43 or something January '09. They run 1600 7-7-7-19-11-1T 5,7,5,5 1.75vdimm or 1333 6-6-6-17-11-1T 4,5,4,4 1.7vdimm. Truly bang for the buck. Crazy how my G. Skills cost 3 times as much, at less performance (eBay e-bucks burning a hole, had to use em before they expired). The 790XT-UD4P can't even go lower than 1.6vdimm, when the Ecos supposedly run @ 1.35vdimm, bah.

[BADFISH]

Hey guys need some help! I'm trying to get a 550 unlocked and stable but having issues with a core. First the CPU unlocks to a quad and boots, no freezing or crashes. However, almost every program crashes to the desktop. I ran Prime95 and core 2 fails immediately. So, I'm trying to figure out how do disable that core but i'm not given that option in the bios. Only option is core 2 and 3, which I've disabled both with no luck.