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    Quote Originally Posted by Vapor View Post
    Alright, might be able to take this out of 'beta' the next day or so...

    Looking for more AMD data (Kuma/Rana, Deneb X3, Deneb X4, Thuban, etc), Gulftown, Clarkdale, more multi-CPU data, and Sossaman data. I think we've got enough here on Bloomfield/Lynnfield/Kentsfield/Yorkfield--I'll probably be trimming the current graph down to simplify things a bit too
    definately interested in someone sharing for this

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    will take a while to get meanginfull data for Thuban.. mines only been crunching full time for just under 3 days, and the first days result was only 4000pts, so it's going to through everything for a bit.

    days 2 and 3 have been 24-28kppd though (3.9Ghz), Will see how it averages out and contrubute to thread..

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    Has yours been at 3900 the whole time? Is it a dedicated cruncher or a daily use rig?

    Whats your total CPU time and points so far? 3 Days is what I'd consider the lower limit of 'useful' for finding PPD/MHz, but it'll give a good hint

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    Quote Originally Posted by mAJORD View Post
    will take a while to get meanginfull data for Thuban.. mines only been crunching full time for just under 3 days, and the first days result was only 4000pts, so it's going to through everything for a bit.

    days 2 and 3 have been 24-28kppd though (3.9Ghz), Will see how it averages out and contrubute to thread..
    Can you take a screen shot of the WCG page where it shows the output by days with the hours,etc for just that machine..like this:
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    sorry guys, i'm still a bit nob at this, just realised the 1st days low pts are acounted for the in the total time stats, so maybe it's almost enough..

    tell me if I'm doing this calc wrong.

    Phenom II X6 3920Mhz win7x64 BOINC v6.10.18 (latest recomended)

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    5/4/10 0:012:23:55:02 56,882 98

    12.99 days /6 core
    =2.166days

    56882/2.166 = 26261PPD

    26261/3920mhz
    =6.70PPD/Mhz

    Device stats breakdown:


    5/4/10 0:006:10:40:55 28,036 40
    5/3/10 0:005:10:41:21 24,368 45
    5/2/10 0:001:02:32:46 4,477 13



    im at work so can't really do screenshots atm
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    0:012:23:55:02 is within minutes of 13 days, not 12.38....otherwise you got it right

    Works out to 6.7 PPD per MHz on the first two days....we'll see if that number holds up (hopefully it does, then we can get PPD/MHz numbers faster )

    EDIT: and based off the numbers from Dave's screenshot....his SR-2 is doing 24.9 PPD / MHz (using 4175 as his MHz)

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    hey vapor, ive got a few quad socket 8356 optis for ya @2.3ghz

    they are all running win server03 r2 64bit
    tyan-2, and tyan-3 are running 8gb of ram
    tyan-1 is running 16 gb

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    BOINC skycrane-tyan3 5/5/10 1:364:15:20:54 1,585,813 2,742
    BOINC skycrane-tyan1 5/5/10 0:112:15:13:50 255,205 793
    BOINC skycrane-tyan2 5/5/10 0:180:08:09:06 401,626 1,095
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    Between the three you're averaging 15.3 PPD per MHz

    Between your three and jcool's Quad Barcelona, it looks like that number will settle at 15.2 PPD per MHz....with over 11 years of Quad Barcelona runtime, I think we're now set for data on this CPU

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    Quote Originally Posted by mAJORD View Post
    will take a while to get meanginfull data for Thuban.. mines only been crunching full time for just under 3 days, and the first days result was only 4000pts, so it's going to through everything for a bit.

    days 2 and 3 have been 24-28kppd though (3.9Ghz), Will see how it averages out and contrubute to thread..
    i would like to see a screen shot as well, and would like to keep an eye on this. if this info is correct; these could produce in the same ballpark as a 920.
    my 920's along with gpugrid vary on a daily basis. its always up and down, but i think on avg they are around 30kppd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vapor View Post
    Alright, might be able to take this out of 'beta' the next day or so...

    Looking for more AMD data (Kuma/Rana, Deneb X3, Deneb X4, Thuban, etc), Gulftown, Clarkdale, more multi-CPU data, and Sossaman data. I think we've got enough here on Bloomfield/Lynnfield/Kentsfield/Yorkfield--I'll probably be trimming the current graph down to simplify things a bit too
    Vapor,

    Here are some clarksdale numbers... There are 2 users on this machine so It's not dedicated (as you can see)


    PHEONIX 5/5/10 0:173:07:15:08 725,788 1,078

    5/4/10 0:003:19:58:49 14,841 21
    5/3/10 0:006:18:36:40 26,327 35
    5/2/10 0:004:16:07:39 16,445 28
    5/1/10 0:002:22:11:11 9,713 17
    4/30/10 0:003:11:24:29 12,244 19
    4/29/10 0:001:14:39:48 5,518 10
    4/28/10 0:001:20:23:00 7,416 10
    4/27/10 0:004:06:29:31 18,207 26
    4/26/10 0:004:03:11:14 16,453 28
    4/25/10 0:004:01:41:40 17,183 28
    4/24/10 0:003:20:40:17 15,898 29
    4/23/10 0:003:19:18:50 17,489 26
    4/22/10 0:003:19:34:03 16,229 26
    4/21/10 0:003:21:45:59 16,896 31

    Currently at 4.37gHz (lowered for crunching), win7 x64

    If you need me to pull something else off let me know...

    EDIT: it's an i3-530 ($99 from MC), I call her Pheonix.
    EDIT: peak average has been right under 2200ppd Boinc (~2190)
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    Here you go
    Note: Italicized ones are all laptops.

    Athlon II 240 Regor 2 Cores @ 3.6GHz
    0:110:00:03:49 428,455
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    Xeon X3210 Kentsfield 4 Cores @ 2.13GHz
    0:235:12:34:58 560,881
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    C2D E6750 Conroe 2 Cores @ 2.66GHz
    0:103:06:13:18 305,882
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    Pentium T3200 Merom 2 Cores @ 2GHz
    0:013:16:39:37 25,244
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    P4 Prescott HT @ 3.0GHz
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    I'll ss tonight, or maybe after the 12hr update

    BTW.. I'm crunching all prjects except HP2.. should we include what projects ppl have selected in the results? Does it make a big difference?


    EDIT: oops, thanks for th corection VAPOR.. heh
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    Here are my two rigs for last few days:

    i7 920 8 cores @ 3.6 Win 7 x64 BOINC 6.10.43 (x64)

    04/05/10 0:007:17:01:01 30,467 50
    03/05/10 0:006:09:05:20 25,607 51
    02/05/10 0:009:05:21:38 36,693 69
    01/05/10 0:007:00:47:20 27,537 45
    30/04/10 0:006:16:08:30 26,662 43

    7.7/8=0.9625
    30,467/0.9625=31,654 PPD/core
    31,654/3600=8.79 PPD/Mhz

    Xeon E5520 (x2) 16 cores @ 2.267 Server 08R2 BOINC 6.10.43 (x64)

    04/05/10 0:013:14:33:34 33,323 65
    03/05/10 0:014:06:36:09 33,952 63

    13.58/16=0.84875
    33,323/0.84875=39,261 PPD/core
    39,261/2267=17.32 PPD/Mhz
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    C'mon people, do the math yourself

    E6750@2.66GHz@WinXP 32bit
    0:040:03:53:03 120,249 -> 2.25PPD/MHz

    E7500@2.93GHz@WinXP 32bit
    0:037:00:44:14 132,613 -> 2.44PPD/MHz

    W3503@2.4GHz@WinXP 32bit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vapor View Post
    Updated again with mysticmerlin's numbers (good to see OS X still rocking out and doing so well, brings back some fond and not-so-fond memories of my Q6600 hackintosh)

    Looking forward to the Gulftown and Lynnfield numbers (though Lynnfield should be within spitting distance of Bloomfield I'd think). I might be able to get some Thuban numbers by the end of the week, will be interesting to see if it can match Lynnfield without HT And for that matter, I think Clarkdale might be able to keep up with Deneb X4, clock-for-clock
    Vapor,
    my single X5680 may be a Westmere-EP, but it's performance is identical to that of a Gulftown, so you can use that for single CPU for now
    Last 12 days on it, backed down to 4,4Ghz though. This is my daily driver used for gaming and video rendering, so roughly 80% of time BOINC is running (pretty accurate estimation, so you can factor that in).

    04.05.10 0:011:20:56:59 54,254 136
    03.05.10 0:012:15:22:45 58,354 122
    02.05.10 0:010:23:21:42 51,097 102
    01.05.10 0:009:11:17:31 43,000 79
    30.04.10 0:009:19:24:49 44,870 84
    29.04.10 0:006:09:19:30 29,702 65
    28.04.10 0:013:05:22:59 61,640 113
    27.04.10 0:010:05:05:46 46,969 80
    26.04.10 0:012:05:29:20 56,984 110
    25.04.10 0:007:14:13:53 35,610 74
    24.04.10 0:007:07:06:16 34,770 74
    23.04.10 0:013:19:28:40 64,716 137

    Averages to around 48700.. / 0.8 gives the 60k
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    On the chart can you put the corresponding platform in the name, i.e. I7 x58, I7 P55, I7 x58 Xeon, etc.? It would be easier to figure out the platform for "Average Joe". Also, I am assuming these are based on 100% usage.

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    5/5/10 (0:002:05:40:59) (7,480) (13)
    5/4/10 (0:002:12:13:20) (8,230) (15)
    5/3/10 (0:003:10:56:04) (11,806) (27)
    5/2/10 (0:000:08:11:09) (1,086) (5)

    I7 920 @ 4.2Ghz HT on running 50% to 100% utilization on W7 Ultimate x64 and WCG 6.2.28, 6Gb ram @ 1600Mhz

    5/5/10 (0:004:17:20:24) (20,645) (35)
    5/4/10 (0:004:08:48:49) (19,203) (32)
    5/3/10 (0:001:18:42:52) (8,457) (14)
    5/2/10 (0:000:20:24:35) (3,986) (5)
    4/23/10 (0:000:05:32:03) (873) (3)

    Not sure how good this is, but it appears to be about 4000 per day on the AMD 6 core and 5000 per day on the Intel I7. Based on the other numbers posted here it seems pretty low, but these are multi-functioning machines, so maybe it's ok.
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    Here is what I have for my dual xeon e5410 rig (2.33 MHz), dedicated cruncher, average of the last three full days (28,000 ppd ave):

    Harpertown x2 (no HT) | WinServerStandard03 x32 | BOINC 6.2.28 : 12 PPD per MHz

    or, for one of the cpus:

    Harpertown (no HT) | WinServerStandard03 x32 | BOINC 6.2.28 : 6 PPD per MHz

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    Catching up with adding the new data No need to do the math yourself...once I saw the explosion of results, I set up an Excel that I could just copy and paste the data blurbs into (and tell it MHz and threads) and it tells me PPD, PPD/MHz, and days of runtime

    Looks like jcool was the first to the punch with Gulftown numbers.

    I like your idea utnorris....I'll see if and how I can do that. I agree code names aren't ideal, but it was the shortest nomenclature for groupings that I could think of....brand series name might just work though

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    those SS i promised. nother days results, no change in avg so far.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mAJORD View Post
    those SS i promised. nother days results, no change in avg so far.

    hmm,interesting..
    So if I could get a dual socket G34 board with 2-12 core MC chips in it to 3920 I could pop 100,000 PPD with it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    hmm,interesting..
    So if I could get a dual socket G34 board with 2-12 core MC chips in it to 3920 I could pop 100,000 PPD with it..
    Time to make a call to shamino ??????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vapor View Post
    Alright, might be able to take this out of 'beta' the next day or so...

    Looking for more AMD data (Kuma/Rana, Deneb X3, Deneb X4, Thuban, etc), Gulftown, Clarkdale, more multi-CPU data, and Sossaman data. I think we've got enough here on Bloomfield/Lynnfield/Kentsfield/Yorkfield--I'll probably be trimming the current graph down to simplify things a bit too

    Some AMD info, all running Ubuntu 9.10 x64 using client from "apt-get install boinc" (6.4.5) . Both X2-550 are unlocked.



    CPU cores Mhz Days Points Results
    X3-720BE 3 2800Mhz 0:013:02:06:12 42,611 117
    X2-550BE 4 3400Mhz 0:018:23:01:42 67,351 165
    X2-550BE 4 3400Mhz 0:018:23:42:22 68,045 184


    which should make the ppd per mhz around :

    X3-720 ~2.55
    X2-550@4x3.4g ~4.18
    X2-550@4x3.4g ~4.21





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    Dual Xeon SL8WT (Sossaman) @ 2GHz | Win. Vista 32-bit SP2 | BOINC 6.10.18

    5/4/10 | 0:004:02:55:28 | 8,996 | 15
    5/3/10 | 0:004:10:39:26 | 9,044 | 16
    5/2/10 | 0:004:06:35:47 | 8,711 | 15
    5/1/10 | 0:004:03:12:55 | 8,280 | 14


    E8400 (Wolfdale) @ 3.6GHz | Win. Vista 64-bit SP2 | BOINC 6.10.43 (computer sees occasional light use)

    5/5/10 | 0:003:01:38:02 | 14,691 | 23
    5/4/10 | 0:001:15:06:29 | 7,797 | 14
    5/3/10 | 0:002:02:35:37 | 10,415 | 18
    5/2/10 | 0:002:00:23:38 | 9,348 | 18
    5/1/10 | 0:001:20:26:31 | 8,815 | 14


    Dual-Core Pentium D 820 (Smithfield) @ 2.8GHz | Win. XP Pro 32-bit SP2 | BOINC 6.10.43

    5/5/10 | 0:002:14:06:09 | 4,122 | 8
    5/4/10 | 0:000:23:27:24 | 1,608 | 3
    5/3/10 | 0:002:18:10:43 | 4,214 | 8
    5/2/10 | 0:001:19:33:46 | 2,826 | 5
    5/1/10 | 0:001:04:56:57 | 1,725 | 4
    4/30/10 | 0:001:14:32:04 | 2,492 | 4


    Triple-Core Phenom 8450 (Toliman) @ 2.1GHz | Win. Vista 64-bit SP2 | BOINC 6.10.43

    5/5/10 | 0:002:20:43:04 | 6,089 | 11
    5/4/10 | 0:003:06:11:02 | 6,942 | 13
    5/3/10 | 0:001:22:03:19 | 4,086 | 8
    5/2/10 | 0:002:10:08:08 | 5,055 | 9
    5/1/10 | 0:002:20:58:26 | 6,129 | 13


    Athlon64 X2 3800+ (Manchester) @ 2.0GHz | Win. XP Pro 32-bit SP3 | BOINC 6.10.43

    5/5/10 | 0:001:21:06:27 | 3,741 | 6
    5/4/10 | 0:002:08:10:59 | 4,653 | 8
    5/3/10 | 0:001:10:48:43 | 2,874 | 7
    5/2/10 | 0:002:10:02:59 | 4,607 | 8
    5/1/10 | 0:001:02:02:08 | 2,078 | 4
    4/30/10 | 0:001:13:59:18 | 3,114 | 9


    E6600 (Conroe) @ 2.4GHz | Win. Vista 64-bit SP2 | BOINC 6.10.43

    5/5/10 | 0:002:22:50:39 | 7,851 | 18
    5/4/10 | 0:001:05:05:34 | 3,395 | 8
    5/3/10 | 0:001:11:16:35 | 4,117 | 8
    5/2/10 | 0:000:13:34:13 | 1,489 | 3 <-- Dip due to being pulled offline for a rebuild
    5/1/10 | 0:001:16:42:47 | 4,685 | 8
    4/30/10 | 0:001:19:41:46 | 4,745 | 13
    4/29/10 | 0:001:12:58:01 | 4,037 | 9

    I also have some Apple laptops crunching, but they're all over the place due to BIONC halting (when on battery), quite a lot of use, and throttling down the BOINC usage due to noise & heat concerns. I'm thinking of running my second Sossaman system on a Linux distro... not sure yet (could always use something like Rocks and cluster the two Sammys, too).

    *Edit* ...and before I get grief for only the E8400 being overclocked (and rather mildly, at that): Can't overclock the Sammy (Intel server mobo), the E8400's water cooling system can't take much more heat (all internal, P180 case, built for silence, also has two OC'd HD4850's in the loop and a P45 NB, CPU currently loading at ~63C with the GPUs at idle), the Pentium D's mobo doesn't clock well and the memory is junk (blame my wife, she was on a budget when she built it years ago... also, heat is an issue since it's geared toward silence), the Phenom is our "media PC" that is used for little more than occasionally watching stuff on Hulu (also geared toward silence... but the mobo and memory sure could handle it), the only spare heatsink I had for the A64 was a stocker ('nuff said... the DFI LP NF4 Ultra-D and Geil One memory (rated for DDR400 @ 1.5-2-2-5 & DDR600 @ 2.5-4-4-7) probably want to strangle me), and I have no excuse for the E6600 other than the undervolted (5V) NMB fans it's running.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mAJORD View Post
    those SS i promised. nother days results, no change in avg so far.

    Nice numbers, is it possible to get it to 4.2?
    Team XS: xs4s.org



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    not a lot of info but heres mine.100% used for WCG
    i7-920@4200 w/HT on DDR3-1600 6-9-6-21 1t



    EDIT:forgot to add,im running vista x64 and HT on



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