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    hmm by the way... isn't this whole thing about surge protection at the breaker point called "surge suppression"

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    Quote Originally Posted by hecktic View Post
    hmm by the way... isn't this whole thing about surge protection at the breaker point called "surge suppression"
    Surge protection or suppression or arrestor or TVSS, etc. At one time some tried to claim these were different devices and solutions. Its really all same. Either energy dissipates harmlessly in earth. Or energy is inside the buildig doing bad things while hunting for earth via appliances and electronics.

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    Yes I think you covered about everything I need to know.. for now at least.

    Ive decided to hold off on the electrician and really think about how to go about this in the most proper way.

    You gave me a lot to think about so I am going to hold this part of the project off until later this month around the end of May.

    Ive gotta understand and comprehend all of the possible solutions before I tell the electrician to implement any of them.

    One question I already have thought of, the copper rods (part of third level protection right?) are generally how big in size in terms of length and thickness?

    Because I don't want to tear up a lot of the ground in the room, and its a fairly large sized room (which should help cooling efforts). I also don't want the building owners thinking I am installing or setting up a mini data center, although they probably have the slightest clue about the importance of proper grounding, surge protection, etc. So this is another thing I have to think about.

    If I recall from Sunday, the electrician said he could install a brand new breaker with 12 outlets with a 60amp line and with the copper rods for added protection plus the protection inside the breaker box itself all for $1200

    And he quoted $900 to simply bring the 30amp line over from the main breaker box room to this new server room.

    And of course $250 he quoted for just adding the 30amp line to the main breaker box and installing the power outlet in that same room.... this is no longer a option because that room is so small has no cooling at all right now.

    But now I am not sure if it did include the rods or if that was separate... but he was fairly certain of the quotes he was giving me although he never gave it to me in writing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hecktic View Post
    One question I already have thought of, the copper rods (part of third level protection right?) are generally how big in size in terms of length and thickness?
    Copper clad rods are defined in code at least 8 feet long. Same rods that would be driven outside the building near the electric meter. View them in Lowes, Home Depot, or any other electrical parts store. They are about 5/8 inches diameter. Sell for just above $10. Most expensive part might be driving that rod into the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westom View Post
    Copper clad rods are defined in code at least 8 feet long. Same rods that would be driven outside the building near the electric meter. View them in Lowes, Home Depot, or any other electrical parts store. They are about 5/8 inches diameter. Sell for just above $10. Most expensive part might be driving that rod into the ground.
    oh i see. alright yeah we might as well add these then if its not going to create visible earth inside the server room lol -referring to the ground itself showing inside the server room.

    i have a new question for you regarding power management.... its about "Green Switches"

    So I understand these can be used to tie into many outlets in a large area and allow the user to switch electrical feeds on/off.... sortof like a power on / off button on most surge protectors...

    Would this help for a server room? for the weekends in particular when we dont need most of the equipment running? (creating unnecessary heat and potential to cause disaster like fires etc in the building.... you got me thinking about power management)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hecktic View Post
    Would this help for a server room? for the weekends in particular when we dont need most of the equipment running?
    This 'green switching' idea can be implemented. But a typical server room does not have much (if any) equipment that is only used during office hours. Whereas office environments do contain plenty of equipment used only by humans; server rooms typically are serving remote customers who access 24/7. Green switching is a good idea IF you have many server room equipment only used during the day. Other than a monitor and overhead lights, I cannot think of anything you might switch off.

    Printers generally go into near zero power mode when not in use.

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