Quote Originally Posted by terrace215 View Post
What do you think about BOTH maier and glew hearing that BD isn't gonna be all that? A conspiracy of Intel marketing $$$? Two totally bitter ex-AMDers just making it up, and putting their real names to it? Have you considered that it... might just be... true... and if true, wouldn't really be all that shocking?
I don't know how I missed this edit.

Both Maier and Glew are second hand sources. It doesn't have to be a conspiracy or marketing for second hand information to fall apart. We may trust these individuals as sources but we don't know who their sources are and what their motivations may be. To add to your colorful ( ) list of possibilities why this might not be true: It could be deliberate misinformation from AMD, a former friend and coworker that isn't too happy about them leaving looking to ruin their reputation, old information, perhaps early silicon or performance simulations didn't go too well, etc etc. Accepting that this information is true until proven false isn't any more productive then dismissing it outright.

Let's say that it is true and BD isn't very good. What do you expect us to do? Cheer in the streets? Huddle under the covers and cry? I simply won't buy an AMD processor that generation if it doesn't perform competitively. It won't be "shocking" because I, unlike some, am not setting my expectations irrationally high or low. I think a better word would be disappointment.

Since you keep mentioning Andy Glew, I'd recommend that everyone reading this thread go look at his blog and Multi-star architecture if you haven't already. BD may or may not be a good implementation of some of those ideas. But Glew makes a very good argument about why this direction is the future for x86 architectures. Mr Glew makes it sound like they are on the right track with BD but the first implementation isn't really done yet. And Andy Glew's information also contradicts your timetable, terrace. He says they are shipping it even though it's not really working well because they want to get their new model lineup out the door. But if they were going to delay it again, as you have been claiming, then why wouldn't they simply take as long as needed to work the kinks out?