Dirt2 PC vs NFS Shift PC, which would last longer on replayability?

[Cpl Ledanek]

I got $25 gift card and I'm on the fence on which of these games should I get.
What I'm going for in asking the same question is: Which of these two have a longer re-playability (meaning which will go old fast or one will last as long as GTR2)

I love Rallying but Dirt2 is not your typical Rally racing & the side talk trash talking is not for me. I love the eyecandy replay but the driving itself is not tight as Richard Burns or Colin McRae 2. But still fun

Drift: I like the eyecandy replay. I love that there is a community that is unselfish on sharing configs/mods/skins for making the experience better.
Driving is tighter, considering it's on asphalt vs gravel on Dirt2

I love both experiences since it gives me escapism from our mundane Midwest driving...plus my Forrester is hardly a racer.

If you have any of this game on PC please chime in your PROs & CONs on each maybe I can get a better educated decision.

Advance thanks to everyone

[Frag Maniac]

I have DiRT 2, and have played it a lot. I also tried Shift but it wouldn't run on my rig without bad lag and eventually I couldn't continue because it started crashing after the start of every race. I have very low spec though. Shift is probably more challenging and realistic car handling than DiRT 2, which is fairly arcade by comparison. DiRT 2 is sort of a love/hate affair for me. It's fun but only the Rally events offer a good challenge. The rest of the disciplines are too easy. It is also shallow in car and track depth, so it has a repetitious feel. The main thing in replayability DiRT 2 offers in sp is working your way up through difficulty levels and going for better times. Online play has been ridiculed for being cheat infested. Tough call really, both are good games, it just comes down to a matter of what type of racing you prefer and how SIM-like you want a racer to be.

[[XC] Oj101]

Need For Speed has gotten a bit long in the tooth, it started as racing exotic cars around a set track and has done a complete cirlce through street racing back to the track; the formula is getting stale. I would therefore vote Dirt, I find sliding around sandy corners a lot more fun

[BenchZowner]

I kinda like both.
I prefer racing games that behave more like real-life, the closer the better, so I'd say NFS Shift.
It's nice, fun and has a decent amount of cars & tracks.
I re-install it every now and then to have some fun with the steering wheel ( all driving assists off of course ) [ time trials & drifting race ] with friends/cousins/etc.

Dirt was kinda fun too, not even remotely close to real-life driving, seriously lacking in cars & tracks count, but I liked it because of 2 gaming modes, the rally's of course, and the Gate Crasher ( I love drifting like a mad man ).

[zanzabar]

i got board with dirt2 affter a couple of hours, NFS lasted about 8. i found both way to easy and repetitive

[Cpl Ledanek]

thx for the votes fellas
so I gather this much
Shift: more cars more tracks
Dirt2: less tracks but good for challenging yourself

[zanzabar]

thx for the votes fellas
so I gather this much
Shift: more cars more tracks
Dirt2: less tracks but good for challenging yourself

yah, and dirt has awesome graphics, but the AI in dirt sucks. multiplayer would be fun but i only played the 360 and the pc demo. on shift the cars are the same just faster so u just have to have faster and faster reactions they dont handle differently or corner differently so once u get past the 3rd set of races (unlocks all tracks and modes) its all the same

[Cpl Ledanek]

yah, and dirt has awesome graphics, but the AI in dirt sucks. multiplayer would be fun but i only played the 360 and the pc demo. on shift the cars are the same just faster so u just have to have faster and faster reactions they dont handle differently or corner differently so once u get past the 3rd set of races (unlocks all tracks and modes) its all the same

I mainly play SP anyways zanzabar, so AI sucking or not, it's the cars that I'm driving and the tracks available are more of a concern for me.

So far NoGrip has an awesome community of modders for Shift, and no real mods for DIRT2 (not that I have come across any )

thanks again

[Piotrsama]

May I suggest Flatout Ultimate Carnage, instead?

[Cpl Ledanek]

May I suggest Flatout Ultimate Carnage, instead?

Flatout is just that....FLATOUT AWESOME

thanks still for the suggestion

[Taskforce]

GRID shoulda been on this list, beats them both, even the original Dirt beats them both, why? Dirt felt professional and isn't themed as trailer park trash like Dirt2.

[Cpl Ledanek]

GRID shoulda been on this list, beats them both, even the original Dirt beats them both, why? Dirt felt professional and isn't themed as trailer park trash like Dirt2.

HolyCrap!!!! How did I forget that

Hmm....might have to search for a PC demo and give it a whirl

[Frag Maniac]

I agree about DiRT 1, it's superior to DiRT 2. Had it not been for the better graphics, optimization and better car handling physics in DiRT 2, DiRT 1 would blow it away entirely. One of the things that's really odd is the Dallenbach Special has been around a long time and raced at Pike's Peak, yet in DiRT 1 where they had the Pike's Peak Hillclimb, there was no Dallenbach. They put it in DiRT 2 but there's no race it fits into well.

Note as well to the OP that though the developer talk and clips make it sound like they focused on getting the car damage realistic in DIRT 2, it's actually much more realistic in DiRT 1 in how it affects the performance AND visually. DiRT 2 has nicer graphics, but you'll see cars barely affected by damage and inappropriate parts of cars showing damage when you hit something. For example I have a video doing the rally in Croatia in the Escort MK II where the left rear quarter panel of my car swiped a rock wall, yet the only damage shown was the hood crumpling a bit.

[[XC] Oj101]

+1 for GRID, and if you have an X360 you should look at Forza 3 as well

[Frag Maniac]

Is there ever going to be a GRID 2? I liked GRID a lot, except for the drift. Then again I'm only using KB.

[Cpl Ledanek]

Does Grid or Dirt1 have a modding community even?

[demonkevy666]

shift sucks.
you need to mod the game to make it playable...
try playing the game with the blur off....

number of cars on both games limited.

dirt 2 is much more enjoyable because the control aren't fudge up like shifts.

I'm played online with some people in dirt2 it's funny to see them ahead and the crash LOL

I haven't played shift online I here everyone drives Mclearn F1's anyways
(on side note I reinstalled my most wanted JESUS THESE CARS MAKE shift look SLOW as hell lol)

[Cpl Ledanek]

Regret getting DIRT2 now
Specs:
Win7Pro 32-bit/ ABIT IP35 Pro v1.1 BIOS v.16beta09/ Intel C2D E8400 Batch Q748A223 @ 3.6Ghz/4GB Corsair CM2X2048-6400C5DHX 5-5-5-18 1.80V ver4.1 (Virtual Memory is maxed)/ CORSAIR CMPSU-620HX 620W/ Creative Labs Fatal1ty ProGamer/ Radeon HD 58501GB (Cat 10.4 ver and Hotfix installed)/ Dell UltraSharp 2407FPW-HC

downloaded from STEAM May 1st 2010

After installing all requirements, I installed patch.
Complaints:
--- game executable stopped working if attempts to skip intro videos (ESC, ENTER, SPACEBAR, ALT, ****, etc)
---it's in Window Mode at start
--- any attempts to change video settings game executable stopped working
--- after entering a profile, game executable stopped working
--- after changing volume game executable stopped working
--- after creating a new profile, game executable stopped working
--- seconds before starting a race, when changing camera view, game executable stopped working
--- Logitech Momo is not recognized, attempts to customize are made, but after saving game executable stopped working

From May 1-3....had not played a game because game keeps crashing


@demonkevy66 or anyone playing DIRT2, maybe you guys can offer some advice on what to do next....if not fix by next week, I'm going to email STEAM and Codemaster for a refund
Original Dirt, downloaded from STEAM also is working fine....already at 2nd Tier...1HR from installing game.

[kromosto]

i choose dirt2 because if i want shift style racing game grid is still the best i will get grid but dirt is the best of its style

[Cpl Ledanek]

as stupid as this may sound, the reason I bought a Radeon HD 5850 is to get full DX11 experience.
but, I went into the hardware config and turned DX9 = true to get to the games.

I was able to race, but twice it stopped working for me.

next thing I did was uninstall Rage3D

raced again, but
I constantly had to configure my Logitech Momo, since it would not recognize it.

so off to race...actually makes it thru the entire race

when it was time for replay, it stopped working again.

next thing I going to do is dumb down the resolution to 1024x7xx and turn of V-Sync

dammit....

[BenchZowner]

In steam right click on DirT 2 and select the "verify cached content" or something like that ( it checks the game files for corruption ).

[Cpl Ledanek]

In steam right click on DirT 2 and select the "verify cached content" or something like that ( it checks the game files for corruption ).

unfortunately I uninstalled the game and going to do some step-by-step installation.
- disabled sound
- defragging now
- will install atidll from Cat 10.1(???) to main directory
- enable DX9


Just weird that I finally got to race last night (prior to uninstalling) and was about to see the replay when it stopped working.

I was almost impressed

[Cpl Ledanek]

75% complete... now to find me a virgin to sacrifice...8hrs @ work...Codemaster, don't fail me now

[ReverendMaynard]

I picked Shift PC only because every time I here Travis Pastrana's high pitch, on the edge of puberty voice it makes me want to punch infants. The whole "we're cool because we have no bones left unbroken" gig went out the window with CKY2K ffs lol.

Both are decent, but I'm a sucker for blurring a Zonda R through the 'ring' any day.

[Cpl Ledanek]

I noticed that on the demo, I like how it's implimented, almost
like racing open wheel while racing on The Ring