http://vr-zone.com/forums/634779/ado...on-iphone.html
what do you guys think? will apple regret telling adobe to GTFO?
Adobe is a pretty big software player, and whether apple likes them or not...
they are pretty much everywhere on the web...
and html5 is not going to replace it, at least not within the next 2 years or so...
Adobe didn't have any real iPhone development anyway. I don't see how this will affect them munch.
Why do you think that was the case? you don't think they didn't want flash on the iphone?Originally Posted by lowfat
Adobe basically built Apple a lot of the market that they have today with support for programs like Illustrator and Photoshop. Now that Apple has decided to give them the finger, i feel Adobe has the strength to do the same.
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I would love to see Adobe products beeing Windows only..
This means Adobe sees a lot of future potential in Android - great for the platform.
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the reason behind this was WHEN finally adobe actually had a program with the cs5 suite to pretty much enable flash on the iphone by means of decoding? flash and then recoding it in an open language that apple supports.. the day it was anounced apple blocked it
so adobe is like wtf buhbyeeeeee
apple shot theirselves in the foot here.
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Where are you getting this information from?
somewhere else..
I read it this morning
thats from bbc article but theres a few on it..Closed tools
In mid-April, Adobe released software called Creative Suite 5 that contained translation tools that automatically turn Flash code into programs that run on the iPhone.
Shortly before the release, Apple updated the terms and conditions of the license software developers must sign to create iPhone and iPad applications. The revisions prompted a lot of criticism from many iPhone developers.
The revised terms placed strict restrictions on what developers can use to create these applications and effectively banned them from using code translators such as Creative Suite 5.
At the time Adobe wrote that it still intended to deliver the translation tools. Now it has said it will halt development of future translation tools for Creative Suite.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8639240.stm
but yeah the "revised shortly before release" was literally hours before.. pretty lame of apple to be honest.
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No Apple doesn't want flash on the iPhone.Why do you think that was the case? you don't think they didn't want flash on the iphone?
Adobe basically built Apple a lot of the market that they have today with support for programs like Illustrator and Photoshop. Now that Apple has decided to give them the finger, i feel Adobe has the strength to do the same.
This isn't going to be a big deal really. The iPhone has survived two years w/o this flash-to-app tool and has hundreds of thousands of apps already available.
Anyone telling adobe to GTFO is a hero in my eyes. Adobe's software is substandard trash, which is unacceptable considering they are the standard. The fact that Flash is buggy poor performing garbage in terms of software really left Apple with no choice.
Every day I pray a new standard comes out that will eventually take out flash once and for all. It was great back in the macromedia, but ever since adobe took over its become nothing more than a conspiracy to crash browsers and jack up electric bills with excessive cpu usage. For one Steve Jobs is dead on right and no one with a brain can argue.
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It's not a big deal because Android can't run flash yet either. Once there is an alternative with flash support available, Apple will either change their tune or lose market share.
ummm, no. Lest we forget the average iphone buyer. They might lose some share to people who would end up with half working HTC winmobile, but the people one iphones/androids and such made up their mind long before they considered if it had support for that godawful media and ad player.
In the sense they will never get flash.... considering most of the web atm is using it... that will hurt sales when the 4g cant deliver an internet experience, and all android phones can. Ipad even more damaging.
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Apple doesn't want flash though. It is too inefficient. The only thing this flash-to-app tool that was to be included w/ CS5 would do is make it easier for developers.
Im sorry but considering how many website use flash and how many flash based media players/ online games we have I cant see how this wont hurt apple? Am I missing something obvious here? Inefficient or not, the fact remains that flash is EVERYWHERE except the iphone/ipad.
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Apple has survived two years w/o it. Flash on websites will never make it in the iPhone/iPad OS. Apple has stated this for years, thus the push for HTML5. The only thing Adobe is doing to Apple is not going to provide the flash-to-app software to convert flash code to iPhone code. Not for websites but for applications. So no, this really isn't going to affect Apple all that much.
if u are apple why would u want flash, flash would make alot of ads visible, what they would gain is unsigned apps and games and video services. they would not want any of that as most sites will build an app for video services and they dont want unsigned games or apps.
and they may like html5 but apple dosnt support it fully for the iphone/pad and im guessing that they wont since they dont want anything but video playback on mobile devices
apple also banned the cs5 flash to apple converter so they really did not want it on their platform. lets just hope that adobe hits back and focuses on windows and linux
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Will apple be getting the ability to display flash from websites?
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I love this!
you Steve Jobs, you completely deserved this.
I love it how people cannot comprehend the fact that Adobe flash is the bigger detriment to the entire computer industry. Apple not supporting it on their iphone is a good thing, might make Adobe consider actually pulling some effort into before sending it out the door, or better yet snowballs into flash being replaced by a better standard.
I don't like flash, but right now I can't see HTML5 being anything more than a poor mans flash. (did that last bit sound dirty?)
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Apple doesnt want Flash as its very CPU intensive - think about how that would tax the processor and absolutely kill your battery life.
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Perhaps, but Apple isn't doing this for the betterment of the industry, they're doing it so Steve Jobs can get the best table at Hooters when all the CEOs get together
It has nothing to do w/ the ability. Safari can easily do it. It is just that Apple doesn't want flash due to its inefficiency.
That's not what I've been hearing, from what I understand, it has more to do with ipod apps (basically Apple gets more control and profits more off the apps)
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