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    Speaking of BD, roughly when can we expect AMD to give a public "taskmaster demo" of it?

    You know, something that confirms that A* silicon exists in-house and can at least boot Windows and show the 8 threads chugging away. Like AMD did for Barcelona back in 2006.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrace215 View Post
    Speaking of BD, roughly when can we expect AMD to give a public "taskmaster demo" of it?

    You know, something that confirms that A* silicon exists in-house and can at least boot Windows and show the 8 threads chugging away. Like AMD did for Barcelona back in 2006.
    They are already sampling Llano to some select partners and have never even demoed a system running a simple thing as task manager.What makes you think they will "show off" the current state of Bulldozer design,the one chip that will be the bread and butter when it comes to revenue and competing with intel for the next couple of years?
    BTW we now have a confirmation that Ontario(Bobcat-the new uarchitecture as D.Meyer said it himself a few days ago) is also ready and being tested and this one is even done on a whole different node(40nm bulk;Llano and BD are 32nm SOI HP).

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    Quote Originally Posted by informal View Post
    What makes you think they will "show off" the current state of Bulldozer design,the one chip that will be the bread and butter when it comes to revenue and competing with intel for the next couple of years?
    Running a taskmaster demo gives away nothing to the competition, it just lets investors and interested parties know that schedules are not slipping.

    Why do you think they "showed off" the current state of the Barcelona design at the end of 2006?

    It was a bit disappointing that no analyst asked, nor did Dirk volunteer, anything about BD on the recent CC. Especially in context of (the admittedly much simpler) llano sampling, the silence around BD was unfortunate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrace215 View Post
    Running a taskmaster demo gives away nothing to the competition, it just lets investors and interested parties know that schedules are not slipping.

    Why do you think they "showed off" the current state of the Barcelona design at the end of 2006?

    It was a bit disappointing that no analyst asked, nor did Dirk volunteer, anything about BD on the recent CC. Especially in context of (the admittedly much simpler) llano sampling, the silence around BD was unfortunate.
    Different circumstances back in the day of Barcelona demo(first native QC x86 chip,first AMD's QC chip,new uarchitecture,unnoticed erratum at the time of demo,marketing mistake etc.). There are many reasons why they shouldn't have demoed the chip back then the way they did but it's all the past tense now. They sure won't rush ahead of themselves this time and do the same thing,will they? Even more so when you consider what radical changes to the design AMD made(Design was actually 6+ years in development by now,so better believe it is where they want it to be perf. wise).

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    Well, I predict that once they have even minimally functional silicon back, you'll hear about it in the next earnings CC, if not before.

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