Quote Originally Posted by OhNoes! View Post
Thanks, see below.

I appreciate your explanation.

I am aware that a leaky chip would require more voltage to operate at the same clock or frequency, but that is not what my argument is. My argument is about efficiency at utilizing a given power (let's say set in bios) and the resultant heat.

Take 1 board, put a highly leaky chip in there, set voltage to 1.20v. Stress it. Take the chip out, put another less leaky chip in there, repeat the process by setting voltage to 1.20v and stressing that chip also.

My argument is that because of the energy that is being lost through leakage, the leaky, less efficient chip ends up using less power = less heat. The energy that is lost through leakage usually accounts for less heat than if it was actually utilized in the case of the less leaky chip.

In the real world, this translates into less leaky and highly efficient chips with low vids, but hotter temps, and high vid to highly leaky chips that need more voltage same clocks but run cooler at the same voltage. I may be wrong, but in my experience this has always been the norm.

@ Informal: No need to be sour grapes because I called you out in the News Section. Somehow, you always manage to turn forum arguments into a shouting match. You really need to grow up! The two guys I quoted above are examples of good forum etiquette and respect of other members and their opinions, even if they're perceived to be wrong. Some of you guys can learn a thing or two from them.
you could learn some by staying out of the amd section where you decided to come troll around in cause the intel section was boring today.