It is pretty hot on open benches, it needs airflow that doesn't happen on a bench. Look at some vids of it in a caseOriginally Posted by Etihtsarom
It is pretty hot on open benches, it needs airflow that doesn't happen on a bench. Look at some vids of it in a case
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Guys...
It's aty camera six inches from the card. If you film a 5870 or a 5770, it will most likely sound extremely loud and obnoxious. It's barely louder than a gtx285.
You guys are just bashing the noise without any first hand experience. It isn't that loud. You guys are just looking for stupid excuses to hate on a good product. Yes, the product isn't what it could have been, that doesn't mean hate on it because it's slightly noisier than the competition. Stop being so petty. Just because you don't like part of it, doesn't mean its a bad card or should be ignored. Stop being so immature and judge based on your own needs, and explain your needs and wants, instead of just bashing for the sake of bashing.
Not true:Guys...
It's a
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sax8TvPDuYU
GTX 480 vs 5870.
Dude. Open bench. Look at the results for the 480 as soon as it has airflow over the external heatplate.
And the 5870 fan sounds more annoying in that video, it is much more "growly" and low pitched. GTX480 is high pitch "whine" but high frequencies are better dampened by cases.
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Open bench temps should be lower than closed case temps, plenty more space for the hot air to remove itself.
Also, both cards were tested as open bench setups, so it is a fair comparison.
yes, its loud, yes the stock cooler is horrible, get over it... most "gamers" run so many crappy led fans you probably couldn't hear the card over them. Most guys really concerned with quiet will run aftermarket cooling anyways... With water the card hits around 50c in furmark with a low end water setup and using artic ceramique (dangerden videos) so i'm not so concerned, just very curious about the 200.xx drivers and if they will bring anything worthwhile to the table
Disagree. I use 7 such 1200 RPM fans and they are completely silent and inaudible. The only thing that makes any noise in my PC is exhaust fans on graphics cards running at high speeds. This is also why I always prefer aftermarket silent GPU coolers or buy my own, I just reattached my 5770 V1 coolers to match with the new motherboard I'm getting, but they are completely silent at stock speeds anyway.
Last edited by Mungri; 04-11-2010 at 10:45 AM.
that's kinda proved my point tho, most people concerned with silence will replace the stock coolers anyways. The percentage of gamers that expect silent cooling from stock is minuscule. In a standard PC with a stock intel CPU fan cranked at full and a low end power supply with cheap 120mm / 80mm fans, the graphics card will be the least annoying part in the PC.
I used to have a CM 850w Silent Pro and it was horrifically noisy so much so i sold it and got a hx620 just get rid of the noise, atm the loudest thing in my PC is my GTX260 and my pump.
I'm hoping to get hold of a 480 sometime next week and then i can comment on the sound first hand, tho as soon as the waterblocks come out the card will be put under water...
ive had some loud systems in the past, but i am a gamer so i put up with it, but after a while i got serious and decided to watercool the lot, all i have is PSU and 2 120 mm fans now.
my GTX 470 will be here tomorrow (fingers crossed) and i already have one of these lined up
GTX 480 / 470 waterblocks
Wow you're talking like you actually owned one. The card is quieter than the HD4890 FYI.
Wow, I think this guy just completely ignores every part of your post just to screw with you.
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I dont even get the point of your previous post. The video that I posted had nothing to do with 'open bench vs closed case'. It was a response to the person who said that HD 5000 cards would sound just the same in the same kind of test which is clearly not the case.
If you think the 5870 sounds worse then that is your opinion and you can feel free to buy a GTX 480 instead if you want...
Seriously, what a load of. You cant hear the HD 5000 series fans with the cards at stock settings inside any case. Someone said above that the 4890 fans were louder than the GTX 480 which they probably were, I wouldnt even have bought one of those, but wouldnt get so wound up over people complaining about its noise.
Last edited by Mungri; 04-11-2010 at 12:12 PM.
GTX 480 Vs HD 5870 Crysis Showdown:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlEA8E9NomM
HD 5870 wins in an Nvidia optimised game.
Really really well optimized
I don't think you understand the bull
The point is the GTX480 is not as loud in a case, and it benefits more from case airflow than a 5870.
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Proof please?
http://www.legionhardware.com/articl...rrives,11.html
All that power makes for one seriously hot graphics card. Do not be fooled by the 97 degree load temperature. While this is the maximum temperature that we recorded, the fan was spinning so fast things started sliding across my desk towards the test system. The GeForce GTX 480 was truly deafening when running our full load test.
Letting the card sit at the Windows 7 desktop for 20 minutes after stress testing saw the temperature only drop to 65 degrees. When it came time to remove the GeForce GTX 480 from our test system I had to wear a pair of gloves to avoid any possible burns or dropping the extremely hot graphics card. The PCI Express power cables were amazingly soft from all the heat that had been thrown at them.
In short the GeForce GTX 480 is around 11% hotter than the Radeon HD 5870 under load and a whopping 71% or 27 degrees hotter at idle.
Even morewhen you compare the GTX 480 to a pair of 5770s which cost £240, run silent, cool and consume much less power.
The 5870 doesnt need case air flow to operate at much lower temperatures and noise. The
Last edited by Mungri; 04-11-2010 at 01:15 PM.
I'd personally rather have a hotter gtx480 than two low end 5770 and have to deal with all the crossfire nightmares bugs and incompatibilities. I will never run sli /crossfire so dual cards and dual GPU cards are not something I care about. All the dual card headaches and microstutter just arent worth it...
That might just be you, but I've not had any problems at all using crossfire since the HD 3000 series.
Ive never seen any microstutter either.
I wouldn't.
Also, 5770 is low end now? I'm quite sure single 5770 performance is near the GTX 260 you're running now.
You hardly get much more crossfire bugs/incompatibilities than you get bugs/incompatibilities with Nvidia or ATI drivers in general.
I'm pretty sure the more recent drivers from ATI and Nvidia have basically solved microstuttering issues caused by CF/SLI
Last edited by Apokalipse; 04-11-2010 at 01:48 PM.
reeks of bogus, 5870 definetly looks like it has a few more settings down at gamer than the 480. I wouldnt put it above a youtuber shopping the settings or ati drivers. Now that were back to those kinda accusations.
Last edited by Dainas; 04-11-2010 at 02:50 PM.
I think it was pretty much established that GF100's suck at Crysis and perform below 5870.
INTEL Core i7 920 // ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 // OCZ 3G1600 6GB // POWERCOLOR HD5970 // Cooler Master HAF 932 // Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme // SAMSUNG T260 26"Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Look over at the EVGA forums, everyone who has one says it is quieter than a GTX280 and it also maxes out at ~85-90C furmark (retail cards have different fan curves in the BIOS).
GTX480 already has much better minimum frame rates than 5870, I would love to see how it compares to CF'd 5770's.Even more
Well then, if you use an open bench and don't own a 120mm fan (or any fans) then by all means go for a 5870. Yes, it is quieter and cooler but the GTX480 isn't starting forest fires and does not sound like a vaccum.The 5870 doesnt need case air flow to operate at much lower temperatures and noise. The
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Well i dont own a GTX4X0 so i cant say how loud it is, but through the years i have learned one fact. Although both, ATI & nVidia use the same blower style fan, ATI`s are way louder at the same % setting.
For comparison: The fans running at 100& on my recent NV cards (8800GTS 640MB, 8800GTS 512MB, 9800GTX+, GTX260, GTX280, GTX295) were as loud as ATI`s fans running at 40-50% (X1950XTX,4870-ref., 4890-ref., 5870-ref). That was measured with my ears offcourse.
I would love to see a comparison test, with lets say a 4890/5870 and a GTX280/GTX480 and the fans on both cards running at 50%, 75%, 100% and see which fan pushes more air through the card.
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the nvidia cards might be worse in crysis, but you can look at games like battleforge, that were specifically created for the 5000 series, and see that a gtx470 is as good or a little better than a 5870.
Last edited by grimREEFER; 04-11-2010 at 03:22 PM.
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This post pretty much covers the fan noise
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?&m=288625&mpage=1#
"See post 2"
"How this translates into real world differences, again, you'll end up seeing the GTX 480 fan spins at a higher RPM at a similar % fan duty cycle compared to the 280. Up to ~80% there is very little difference in fan noise, but compared at 100%, the 480 is without a doubt louder with a higher pitch than the 280 fan.
You can see the difference in RPM clearly set at the same fan duty cycle % both set at 70%
280 = 2266RPM
480 = 3003RPM "
Higher RPM means more vibz he does add that around 70%-80% the GTX 480 noise lvl is similar to GTX 280 but then again GTX 280 was loud. It was GTX 285 that was easier on the ears.
In extrema tessellation bench 5770 CF min fps was better than 5870's just search my "Thread started"GTX480 already has much better minimum frame rates than 5870, I would love to see how it compares to CF'd 5770's.
[/QUOTE]Well then, if you use an open bench and don't own a 120mm fan (or any fans) then by all means go for a 5870. Yes, it is quieter and cooler but the GTX480 isn't starting forest fires and does not sound like a vaccum.
Its very hard to say how it sounds like small fans are never a good idea, ATi did it with 2900 and it was bad... The need for higher RPM's is needed because GTX 480 is a hot card by nature "Nvidia said its meant to operate at high temps"
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