XFX Will Not Offer GeForce 400 Series GPUs

[Mysterfix]

I can see some peoples point of XFX not producing the card because of

A) its a gamble on a card that is apparently too hot and could lead to many RMA's ETC

B)The architecture of the graphics card is less than insipring.

These are all conclusive and valid assumptions which we can to an extent believe in. However people are forgetting the fact that XFX is producing mainstream fermi cards. At the end of the day the way i see it is that Nvidia is kinda punishing XFX to a certain extent as I cannnot fathom XFX losing out on a section of the market which could be lucrative to them. They certainly have a fanbase within the Nvidia group and will not like to see their section of customers go to another brand. They are a business at the end of the day and to not offer a card like fermi to their customers is a blow.

Well we all know that the mainstream cards are the bread and butter for these companies and the lower derivatives of fermi won't be nearly as power hungry or hot for that matter.

[zanzabar]

Well we all know that the mainstream cards are the bread and butter for these companies and the lower derivatives of fermi won't be nearly as power hungry or hot for that matter.

i think that they would unless TSMC fixes something or they get rid of cashe. if u look at xfx they are not a top NV maker like evga and they are not a bargain brand like GW/pallit so they are a second or third pick. then NV was rumored to force oems to buy alot of lower end parts to be able to get the fermi so if u look at it, ati is ahead in every category ATM except top single gpu that is not oced so there is almost no1 informed who would buy a lower end NV card other than for phsyX. XFX also has cut down pcbs with low end pwms for the entire ati range other than the 5970 so im sure that they are getting huge margins on them. so to sell the NV parts it would come down to advertising to get back to peoples top picks lists but then they would have to say that one of their lines was bad. so it just makes their strategy way easier to stay with who ever makes them the best margins per card when they have the performance categories.


remember that they have the 58xx and 59xx so they would have to find a way to say that the NV card is better than the 58xx cards but the 59xx is the best, that would do nothing but confuse people, and an oced 58xx will take out a stock 4xx (by gettng the same FPS but way lower wattage) and as an OEM i wouldent sell an overclocked 4xx except for a vary limited liquid cooled one or 10-50mhz upped, but for ati its safe up to 1ghz IMO for a sale as they arnt hot and dont have to much higher power consumption

[Mysterfix]

i think that they would unless TSMC fixes something or they get rid of cashe. if u look at xfx they are not a top NV maker like evga and they are not a bargain brand like GW/pallit so they are a second or third pick. then NV was rumored to force oems to buy alot of lower end parts to be able to get the fermi so if u look at it, ati is ahead in every category ATM except top single gpu that is not oced so there is almost no1 informed who would buy a lower end NV card other than for phsyX. XFX also has cut down pcbs with low end pwms for the entire ati range other than the 5970 so im sure that they are getting huge margins on them. so to sell the NV parts it would come down to advertising to get back to peoples top picks lists but then they would have to say that one of their lines was bad. so it just makes their strategy way easier to stay with who ever makes them the best margins per card when they have the performance categories.

Remember that they have the 58xx and 59xx so they would have to find a way to say that the NV card is better than the 58xx cards but the 59xx is the best, that would do nothing but confuse people, and an oced 58xx will take out a stock 4xx (by gettng the same FPS but way lower wattage) and as an OEM i wouldent sell an overclocked 4xx except for a vary limited liquid cooled one or 10-50mhz upped, but for ati its safe up to 1ghz IMO for a sale as they arnt hot and dont have to much higher power consumption

You are correct but I was only talking about the fourth coming fermi derivatives. There will no doubt be a demand for these cards with the XFX warranty attached. The margins for these cards should be a lot better too, which will likely be incentive enough for XFX to make the offering available.

[zanzabar]

You are correct but I was only talking about the fourth coming fermi derivatives. There will no doubt be a demand for these cards with the XFX warranty attached. The margins for these cards should be a lot better too, which will likely be incentive enough for XFX to make the offering available.

yah but when u cut cashe and shaders and rops out (im guessing lots of rops out) it wont be as competative and they are scheduled for q1 next year from what i heard so thats a long time off