The Fermi Thread - Part 3

[Nightcover]

ray-trace demo:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/cool_st...ml#/demos/2116

sled demo:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/cool_st...ml#/demos/2117


btw. file not found with sled demo, I'm downloading the other..

[NaMcO]

Basically: HOT & LOUD. It's fast though :P

[zerazax]

You know I really hate how they do the "Highest playable settings" BS, you see 20 FPS min and think "oh it loses" however they have it at 16XCSAA vs ATI at 12XCFAA, anyway hard to know which really wins there stupid way to review.

They're not there to tell you which wins, it's to tell you what kind of settings you should expect to max and still be able to play the game

I find it more enlightening than comparing a game at 7 fps vs. 17 fps at settings where both are unplayable.... or comparing 120 vs. 140 fps where clearly the gpu isn't being taxed.

edit: I'd say your best bet is to compare it to Apples to Apples benches for games that are "borderline" playable in the Apples to Apples benches. As in, games hovering around 25-30FPS and see if its due to settings etc. that you will use

[RaV[666]]

Even xtremesystems slowdowned a little.
http://pclab.pl/art41241-20.html
This polish site works good, and graphs are universal language, many games!
What i find funny is that except few cases, 5870 is CATCHING UP in 2560x and not slowing down

[Yvese]

http://news.firingsquad.com/hardware...0_performance/

Best review imo.

[pentium777]

HA! Idle power usage!

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/...0_sli_review/7

For all those crying about electricity bills, unless you are playing 24/7 3d gaming I don't think the max 3D power usage is going to really make or break your wallet. So while doing anything other than gaming in 3D the 480 is lower power consumption than 5870, not by much but the nit pickers might see 10 cents saving per month!

[ShadowFox19]

I just preordered a GTX480 from EVGA baby!

[GoldenTiger]

LINK EDITED: Someone posted it above.

Firingsquad review seems pretty good so far, reading through it now.

EDIT2: Anandtech's review shows the 480 pulling ahead nicely in many tests, and used the 10.3a Catalysts... HardOCP's is hard to muddle through due to the varied settings. Firingsquad shows it pulling ahead barely in some and very nicely in others. Oddly, 1920x1200 lead is usually better than the 2560x1600 results .

[Solus Corvus]

5970CF so you are talking about QUAD GPU, ya I never said that. However 5870CF a fair comparison does lose if that is what you intended to mean.

You said that ATI doesn't have anything to beat GTX480 SLI with. As I pointed out, that's not true. ATI still has the fastest single card and fastest multicard.

You don't have to take my word for anything I've been in this thread the entire time and read every single post and looked at all the numbers. It is a known fact that SLI does provide a better multi-GPU experience vs CF there are only rare cases that CF is better if an SLI profile isn't available or optimized.

That's your personal preference. After using both CF and SLI I don't really have any issue with either, though drivers become more critical.

[MrDiaz]

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com has the best reviews by far. They actually separated the GTX 470 & 480 into two different articles!

[96redformula]

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com has the best reviews by far. They actually separated the GTX 470 & 480 into two different articles!

All I get is "Database Error"

[NaMcO]

Er... ok, NOW i've seen it all.

[Motiv]

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com has the best reviews by far. They actually separated the GTX 470 & 480 into two different articles!

I lost faith with hardware canucks with the Nvidia driver fiasco. it was one of the most unbalanced reviews I had seen.

I can't get on at the moment, but I suspect they'll be claiming the new Nvidia card is 200% faster than a 5970.

[RaV[666]]

HA! Idle power usage!

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/...0_sli_review/7

For all those crying about electricity bills, unless you are playing 24/7 3d gaming I don't think the max 3D power usage is going to really make or break your wallet. So while doing anything other than gaming in 3D the 480 is lower power consumption than 5870, not by much but the nit pickers might see 10 cents saving per month!

You are aware that in the link you provided 480 eats 120Watts MORE than 5870?
Im not juding, it just seems odd that it would draw you to a conclusion that power consumption aint that bad...

[GoldenTiger]

I lost faith with hardware canucks with the Nvidia driver fiasco. it was one of the most unbalanced reviews I had seen.

I can't get on at the moment, but I suspect they'll be claiming the new Nvidia card is 200% faster than a 5970.

HWC has been the best review site lately IMO *shrug*. I can't get on there right now though.

EDIT: Looks like overclocking the RAM helps a LOT... http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...nce/page17.asp
Firingsquad uses the 10.3a driver for their radeon results.

[Chumbucket843]

evga has their 400 series for pre-order.
http://www.evga.com/articles/00528/
you can buy a watercooled 480 for $650, the same price a gtx280 was at launch.

ray-trace demo:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/cool_st...ml#/demos/2116

sled demo:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/cool_st...ml#/demos/2117


btw. file not found with sled demo, I'm downloading the other..

i downloaded it a while ago. it requires 400 series.

[zerazax]

You are aware that in the link you provided 480 eats 120Watts MORE than 5870?
Im not juding, it just seems odd that it would draw you to a conclusion that power consumption aint that bad...

He's just mad his card didn't live up to the hype

I mean yeah, let's talk about idle power consumption, when the first thing Nvidia did at the PR event was talk about folding@home performance...

Which means you'll be using that GPU at full load baby!!

Anyways, it sucks seeing that it actually scales WORSE at 2560x1600, which is what I'm using... so much for that I guess

[WorshipMe]

Poor old Xbit loses out again...

[~CS~]

I read one page , 2 more spring up , this thread is multiplying like crazy !!!

Am going back to reading page 89 :p

[HelixPC]

why these jokers cant use the newest drivers is stupid.

[***Deimos***]

Good news!!
Max TDP is **only** 250W instead of the 285-300W we all feared! YAY!!

Bad news!!
Totaly system power in Furmark is 480W (GTX 480 - coincidence): higher than 5970. Wow, thatsa hot meata-ball.

From techpower, on the "performance per watt" and "performance per dollar", only GTX295 is worse than the 480.. ouch.
Performance is very good in Heaven, and some DX11 games, but even with 5870 (or bit slower) in everything else. Good card for the future... when the future gets here.

But, amazingly, you can overclock it to 770-830Mhz (with stock voltage and cooling). Wholy mozes batman.

[GoldenTiger]

He's just mad his card didn't live up to the hype

I mean yeah, let's talk about idle power consumption, when the first thing Nvidia did at the PR event was talk about folding@home performance...

Which means you'll be using that GPU at full load baby!!

Anyways, it sucks seeing that it actually scales WORSE at 2560x1600, which is what I'm using... so much for that I guess

"His" card? @ that comment from you.

It does scale worse at 2560x1600 but in Anand's and Firingsquad's reviews it holds its own very well with performance gains IMO... it's 25% more expensive and seems to be garnering nice performance with that in mind. Also, overclocking seems to give HUGE performance boosts: http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...nce/page17.asp

[96redformula]

Ashley McBroom:
"Reviews will be posting in about 10 minutes or so" and they'll be in stores in about 14 days


dumb

[Intratech]

OCUK want £448 for a gtx480! US$667!

Seems about right for OcUK. Price gorging.

[LesGrossman]

lol at pentium777, talk about flies over a turd.

GT480 30% faster at 2560, defective benchmarks, that's some sick, sick, fanboyism right there.

You know I really hate how they do the "Highest playable settings" BS, you see 20 FPS min and think "oh it loses" however they have it at 16XCSAA vs ATI at 12XCFAA, anyway hard to know which really wins there stupid way to review.

HA! Idle power usage!

Oh noes this review sucks, oh wait, better idle consumption? This review rocks!!
In the 454 reviews out by now that's the only one that have GTX480 with better idle consumption... funny you missed that, since you are "seeing all the numbers"

I lost faith with hardware canucks with the Nvidia driver fiasco. it was one of the most unbalanced reviews I had seen.

I can't get on at the moment, but I suspect they'll be claiming the new Nvidia card is 200% faster than a 5970.

I liked the review, and the claim is more like 13%.