AMD Phenom X6 1090T Black Edition & 1055T launch on 4/27

[mindfury]

Phenom X6 1090T Black Edition:
125W TDP/3.2G/Turbo 3.6G/Locked multiplier

1055T:
125W TDP/2.8G/Turbo 3.3G

2.6g 1035T and 3.0G 1075T will launch later.

Source:http://bbs.chiphell.com/viewthread.p...extra=page%3D1

[massman]

Black Edition is unlocked multiplier, right?

[mindfury]

Black Edition is unlocked multiplier, right?

1090T multiplier is locked according to the source.

[Chrono Detector]

I don't understand, all of AMD's CPU's that are called "Black Edition" comes with an unlocked multiplier, why call it a Black Edition if it comes with a locked multiplier?

[..::G80::..]

1090T multiplier is locked according to the source.

Yeah right.
Black edition is unlocked of course.

[ajaidev]

I dont understand the 1090T codename??

1035-1055-1075 and then 1090 ?? why shouldn't it have been 1095T

[massman]

I dont understand the 1090T codename??

1035-1055-1075 and then 1090 ?? why shouldn't it have been 1095T

The 1095T will be a higher-clocked and higher-priced super model.

Using 1090T gives AMD the room to squeeze in a higher-end model later on.

[ajaidev]

The 1095T will be a higher-clocked and higher-priced super model.

Using 1090T gives AMD the room to squeeze in a higher-end model later on.

So it should be 1030T - 1050T - 1070T then instead of 1035T, 1055T and 1075T??

[massman]

So it should be 1030T - 1050T - 1070T then instead of 1035T, 1055T and 1075T??

Certainly a valid point.

I guess there's some methodology behind it. Keep in mind that this is just the first batch of Thuban, be sure there will be products coming like:

- 1095T
- 1085T
- 1080T
- 1060T
- etc ...

[informal]

Now these are serious clock speeds,both stock and Turbo. The 3.2Ghz model and its 125W TDP was a bit unexpected ,but I guess its AMD's CTI program at work. With 3.6Ghz Turbo,the 1090T will be faster than 965BE by a good deal in single-thread workloads and totally will blow it away in MT ones. Same goes for 1055T with 3.3Ghz Turbo and 6 cores @ 2.8Ghz.

EDIT:

Oh my oh my,courtesy of planet3dnow forum and user Opteron :
http://www.planet3dnow.de/vbulletin/...postcount=3102

Initial price is 286e for 1090T model .

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AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition
3.2GHz/3.6GHz Turbo Core
9MB cache
Socket AM3
125W TDP

1055T model initial price=213e

[Macadamia]

I'd pay max $350 or so for the Black considering the TDP. DDR2 support is just so awesome, these 4 sticks will be having a really long life methinks.

Even the 1055T seems pretty awesome for most users, but again not sure if power consumption is justified vs Lynnfield in that case (still 125W and all).

[haylui]

I'd pay max $350 or so for the Black considering the TDP. DDR2 support is just so awesome, these 4 sticks will be having a really long life methinks.

Even the 1055T seems pretty awesome for most users, but again not sure if power consumption is justified vs Lynnfield in that case (still 125W and all).

€286 is about USD$387
pretty close to your target price
after a month it would be around that price point. good luck

[Agrophel]

Cost of CPU i found. Micrplex is from Norway, where there is 25% vat on top.
Most likly cost less in some country.

AMD Phenom II X6 1090T = 230€/308$
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T = 160€/216$

[Macadamia]

€286 is about USD$387
pretty close to your target price
after a month it would be around that price point. good luck

Meh, not counting on it. Damn Singaporean retailers will inflate the price for 2 months as it's an "enthusiast" product. And watch those people HUAT AR.

Might be better off buying in Malaysia this time, probably close/less than MSRP.

[Manicdan]

i will be the first to say im not happy with how their numbering is all kinds of wtf. first it was a 940 which "copied" intels i7, but they have like 30 chips all using a theme that makes easy conversion and i was happy with it, then they do this. with the turbo chips, its like the model is based on the turbo speed and not the default speed.

however these prices are seeming horribly fair, almost too good actually, and i cants wait.

[ajaidev]

In naming scheme i am happy with AMD. Intel really broke my heart by naming the hex core as i7 980x "dam you Intel" i would have liked a i9 or at least a i7 1xxx...

[RaV[666]]

Damn im happy, 1050T will be around 200E mark for me (20%VAT included), thats shweeet! But i probably will wait dor 1035T model probably 180E which is my sweet spot for cpus for last few years.Great news.Now, somebody leak overclockability!

[TheBlueChanell]

Awesome. I am glad the 1090T is 125w. I was really expecting a 140w part. I wonder how these will oc.

[RaV[666]]

Well, taking into consideration that 965 C3 is 125W also, it seems reasonable to think it will overclock up to 4ghz on highest end air.
Its tweaked deneb, so only wall would be heat.

[xman01]

once the 1090t is a be
once it reaches sub $300, it'll be my next upgrade

[Mechromancer]

I'll buy this CPU the first day regardless of the cost. IT IS MINE!

[RaV[666]]

Well, it looks like it will be 300$ ,is that really a big difference ?
286E is with 25% vat.

[~CS~]

Wow , if true very impressed with power consumption , curios as to how they tweaked 45nm process to get it .

[Manicdan]

Wow , if true very impressed with power consumption , curios as to how they tweaked 45nm process to get it .

it is very nice to see the change. the jump from 65nm to 45nm seems less of a jump than the first 45nm to current. a 940 was 4x3.0ghz for 140w, now we have 6x3.2ghz for 125W.

im betting its the reduced voltages, 1.225v i think is what we saw on the CPUid thread. and it might be possible all chips are running that for stock volts

[Oliverda]

it is very nice to see the change. the jump from 65nm to 45nm seems less of a jump than the first 45nm to current. a 940 was 4x3.0ghz for 140w, now we have 6x3.2ghz for 125W.

im betting its the reduced voltages, 1.225v i think is what we saw on the CPUid thread. and it might be possible all chips are running that for stock volts

940 was 4x3.0ghz for 125w. Now we have 945 with 95W TDP and will have 955 with 95W TDP soon.


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