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I don't know how many English(not to mention the old English) word starts with I, so I'll just guess Apple has just accomplished 0.08% from their iThings/iNames-to-sue wishlist.
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Steve Jobs has personally commented companies should expect further law suits from Apple, and the company as a whole knows that of they were to file that many law suits in such a short period of time it would immediatley be labeled a rambus equivalent. And again, it comes back to intimidating primarily the developers not the actual company.
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He look guys, it's the new Apple iSue:
It's basically a touch screen interface for online patent applications. It means that you can patent stuff anywhere where you have a Wi-Fi connection, such as while you're on the toilet.
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i can think of a finger gesture for jobs
but this is not about that. htc is one of the best handset makers out there, and a great company. they were making phones long before apple was! gestures cant be patented (should not be), i mean its practically human nature. do you think apple should have won against MS back in the 90's? apple tried to claim the concept of a GUI as their own? apple lost that case and it will lose this one! but they don't intend to go to court, this is just politics, and htc is caught in the middle.
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Anyone else notice that it is a Apple US issue (ie. not the rest of the world). To me this is only a tell tale sign that there's somehing FUBAR about US patent legislation.
I guess you haven't read most of the patents that Apple is using against HTC? Here's a nice breakdown of all the patents involved: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/a...ent-breakdown/
That includes things like: "Patent #7,383,453: Conserving Power By Reducing Voltage Supplied To An Instruction-Processing Portion Of A Processor
Another deeply technical patent, granted in 2008. On reading the claims, we're going to hazard a guess and say it covers powering down a processor when told to sleep, but this sort of patent is exactly why this litigation will take years and require many hearing to determine exactly what's covered."
That's basically a law of nature, they just patented P = V²/R.
You should not be able to patent: "Making opening a door easier by reducing the mass of the door, thereby reducing the amount of force needed to swing open the door." That a law of nature and not something you should be able to patent.
Or how about this patent: "Patent #5,455,599: Object-Oriented Graphic System
This is the oldest patent of the bunch, issued in 1995. (You can really get a sense for how Apple's counsel has changed the way it writes patents over time by reading all of these, by the way. The older ones are really quite terse.) Again, it's technical to the point where we don't feel comfortable saying exactly what it means, but it covers building graphics objects with a processor and outputting them through various means. Given the fact that this predates Steve Jobs' return to Apple, we'd say this one was thrown in because Apple's lawyers think it's particularly strong, not because it has something to do with phones specifically."
That basically includes pretty much every single computer related system that has a display, even the PC at the cash register in your local supermarket for example. A bit odd that they'd get this patent in 1995, getting a patent for something that is being used by quite a lot of companies is a bit like getting a patent for the wheel in this day and age.
This is the patent many of you already mentioned: "Patent #7,657,849: Unlocking A Device By Performing Gestures On An Unlock Image
This one's cute 'cause it's brand new -- seriously, it was just granted on February 2. It's almost exactly what it says on the tin: it covers unlocking a touchscreen device by moving an unlock image. It's broad enough for us to say that it covers virtually every unlock behavior we've seen on phones, not just the iPhone's slide-to-unlock implementation."
It was granted this February the 2nd. It seems a bit odd that this patent was even granted, but that has already been mentioned by a few others in this thread.
Just read up on the other patents if you will. You'll probably come to the conclusion that at least half of these patents should not have been granted and that most of these patents are too vague. To me this seems like a pretty risky move by Apple, as Apple will most likely loose most of these patents in the process. That said, Apple only need one patent that's considered to be violated by HTC to succeed, unless HTC can prove that Apple is violating one of their patents.
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1) using a GESTURE to unlock (if I turn my wrist to unlock my goddam front door with my key thats a gesture as well)
2) "mobile object oriented graphics" Its called ICON's and Shortcuts for gods sake.
3) undervolting a mobile CPU via an interrupt
there was a application floating around about .... 6-7 years ago when i first entered the world of Computers that would "cool down your CPU", it did so by every so often firing off a interrupt to the CPU. Thats not inovation !
None of the aforementioned patents are a stroke of brilliance or patent worty, in most cases its been done before they did and almost all of'm are obvious as hell and SHOULD NOT be patentable.
As someone said before me, If I patent a technique to clean my ass after taking a dump, by means of swiping a piece of toiletpaper across it, then I can sue you all ?
off course not !
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Apple = Innovators????
Talk about how much they copied from Nokia and LG.
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No one has yet to see the real problem here: the patent system. This is why i will vote for the Pirate Party this year.
Okay, this is getting a bit ridiculous... GTSR Boy's post has been quoted not one or two times, but seven. Is that really necessary?
Although I agree for the most part with what you guys said in response to his post, you do have to give Apple credit for putting everything together in an attractive platform and in such a way that hadn't ever been truly done before. Essentially Apple combined the best of the best, with just a couple original ideas here and there, and assembled in a lucrative form factor. It was and is very easy to use, and therefore attracts the masses. GTSR Boy is also right on the money that Apple is in fact just protecting its patents, which it has the right do so. (Though it is laughable that they would file such ridiculous patents, the hand gesture patent is especially ridiculous.)
Well, I did kinda of allude to that in my OP and so did Helmore.
"fightoffyourdemons"
hehehe patent wars begins
Now if only Nokia had patented integrated camera phones, and LG had patented touch screen phones, and Samsung had patented MP3 player phones .....
Anyone who accuses other companies of copying Apple has to be incredibly braindead.
Oh, and the worlds first internet phone? That one was by Nokia too it seems. Damn,were they drunk when they decided not to patent that?
Nowadays, Apple pretty much act as though they invented all of these![]()
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