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    Quote Originally Posted by wuttz View Post
    oh snap! +200 up from my previous score target!

    im gonna have to use DICE on both 965BE + 890GX!
    then i have a chance!
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    Honestly anything over 4 gig on cpu will be useless.

    Those pushing harder for cpu clocks will be dissapointed as it's an IGP and the IGP is the bottleneck.

    For reference a 4 core 965BE made no diff over a 2core 550 in 06 and this is the only bench in the list bench that benefits from multiple cores except vantage which if you want bragging rights for a cpu score thats about all you get, impacts total score not one bit.
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    I got the board, Thanks Simon!

    Unfortunately, my memory won't be here until Monday and I need to run
    up to MicroCenter for a PSU.

    If I have time before I go to work I'll run up to MC and pick up a PSU, if not
    my testing may have to wait until the weekend (I can pull ram from the main rig for testing)....

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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    Honestly anything over 4 gig on cpu will be useless.

    Those pushing harder for cpu clocks will be dissapointed as it's an IGP and the IGP is the bottleneck.

    For reference a 4 core 965BE made no diff over a 2core 550 in 06 and this is the only bench in the list bench that benefits from multiple cores except vantage which if you want bragging rights for a cpu score thats about all you get, impacts total score not one bit.
    went from 4.0->4.1ghz on cpu and sm2.0&3.0 were both w/in 1 point of each other
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveburt714 View Post
    I got the board, Thanks Simon!

    Unfortunately, my memory won't be here until Monday and I need to run
    up to MicroCenter for a PSU.

    If I have time before I go to work I'll run up to MC and pick up a PSU, if not
    my testing may have to wait until the weekend (I can pull ram from the main rig for testing)....

    WooHoo!!!
    which micro center you go to? I hope to be back in the game soon. Board went wierd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charged3800z24 View Post
    which micro center you go to? I hope to be back in the game soon. Board went wierd.
    The one in Cincinnati/Sharonville. I just got back, went and picked up an OCZ ModXStream Pro 500 watt. I know they don't have a great reputation but the price was right and I really wanted a modular to replace the PSU in my HTPC down the road.

    Gotta leave for work right now, but I should be able to get some testing done tonight....

    BTW: sorry about your board , it looks like you get an MSI though!
    It will be cool to see any potential differences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    Honestly anything over 4 gig on cpu will be useless.

    Those pushing harder for cpu clocks will be dissapointed as it's an IGP and the IGP is the bottleneck.

    For reference a 4 core 965BE made no diff over a 2core 550 in 06 and this is the only bench in the list bench that benefits from multiple cores except vantage which if you want bragging rights for a cpu score thats about all you get, impacts total score not one bit.
    Quote Originally Posted by crazydiamond View Post
    went from 4.0->4.1ghz on cpu and sm2.0&3.0 were both w/in 1 point of each other
    lol! see you didnt listen! thanks chew*!
    your insight is always helpful and very much appreciated!

    i have DICE now, would like to see if my 965BE can get near slappa's 5GHz, and mind you his was a 955-C2!

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    This will be interesting

    Good luck all!
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    Here are pics of the parts that came loose. 2 CAPS. I am back on the UD5P for now.



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    What the hell? Did they blow off or something?
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    holy smokes charged! what happened!?

    heres my max run, cpu-vcore max is 1.55 only.





    C3 scales very well under cold!
    Last edited by wuttz; 03-19-2010 at 07:15 PM. Reason: how in the world is cpu-vcore 1.63v in valid but 1.55 only in AOD? xD

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    I ran some benches on air today using the stock clocks. I put it together, installed the OS (Windows 7 RC 32-bit) and the benching software then started benching to get a baseline. I especially wanted to test the Sata controller so I installed four OCZ Vertex 30GB SSD drives in Raid 0 then partitioned the raid0 drive into a 20GIG and a 100GIG. I ran the HDD tests using the 20GIG.

    I’ll just post the links. Edited by the oldtimer for link problems

    3DMark06



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    http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...tockclocks.png

    Cinebench 10 three tests to get an average with OpenGL in between each Rendering test.
    http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...tockclocks.png

    CrystalMark
    http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...890GXM-G65.png

    Performance Test 7.0 GPU-z got covered somehow.
    http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...tockclocks.png

    GeekBench
    http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...tockclocks.png
    Last edited by theoldtimer; 03-20-2010 at 05:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wuttz View Post
    holy smokes charged! what happened!?

    heres my max run, cpu-vcore max is 1.55 only.





    C3 scales very well under cold!
    Nice clocks, dice?
    Did you find a way to cool the IGP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theoldtimer View Post
    Nice clocks, dice?
    Did you find a way to cool the IGP?
    thanks oldtimer, yes DICE only im cheap.
    i couldnt find a good enough "pot" -i even tried a sardine can
    but the bottom is still a bit deep, the edges make contact with
    the board and not the GPU. i got a toothbrushholder(aluminum
    w/ very good mass) but its 1/2 inch too wide. the intel hsf was a good
    idea but i doubt the AMD/ATI GPU would like that situation.

    btw, geekbench has 64-bit in your install folder (or start menu).
    i think it will yield better scores.

    lemme see how high a clock i can run geekbench!

    **edit: http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/230002



    did you know: i just found out you can go more than 1.55v in the BIOS.



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    my 3D plans are kaput, have to figure out how to get a reso higher than this 800x600. imagine that, wanting to get scores like chew* and i cant even get the right reso!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeepBeep2 View Post
    What the hell? Did they blow off or something?
    The board was acting weird and would not post have the time. I only got into windows once. So I began trying everything, flashed bios, clear bios many ways. I then decided to look over everything. I found these were loose and popped up were they were suppose to be soldered down. I took a tiny flat blade and nudged at them and they came right out. I have never had this happen before. This probably explains the weird bios image I posted earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theoldtimer View Post

    I’ll just post the links.
    Some of the links are not working. Images are dead.
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    You Animal you done broke it....

    You play first,, then break things after playng too Extreme


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    My Old TA770 did that with a few more than that.. Bad Solder when it comes out of the solder bath or oven...

    I dont know ,, but definatly bad solders.

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    VERY NICE clocks wuttz!

    It may be a little risky, but did you consider just laying a small piece of dICE directly on the NB heatsink? It's your board man, I'd hate to suggest something that may kill it...

    charged: That sucks man... Just got home from work, I'm about to set things up. It's going to have to be air for tonight with 1 stick of cheapo Crucial, but I'm itching to try it out!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveburt714 View Post
    charged: That sucks man... Just got home from work, I'm about to set things up. It's going to have to be air for tonight with 1 stick of cheapo Crucial, but I'm itching to try it out!!
    Hope you have better luck then me . I was really excited too.
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    Well... I'm finally up and running, Win7 64bit RC1 installed.

    I really can't believe it took me this long to get things going, but at least my board doesn't have Hyroglyphic Bios like Charged's...

    Unfortunately, it's really late now so I don't have a whole lot of time for testing... More info to come tommorow!

    Here's a pic of the current settup:


    BTW: Chew*, if your watching this thread, the Mushkin Blacklines I bought appear to be the same IC's as the G.Skill ECO's....
    They both have the same specs (1600 7-8-7-24 @ 1.35v)...
    Hopefully they are, and Mushkin bins their chips a little better.

    I'll find out Monday. If I'm right they should do better than the D9KPT's on these Crucials, that's all I really wanted...
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    dave, whats your ambient temps? theres another strong canadian front coming through this weekend. looks like that fan will keep that 890GX at very good temps.
    i didnt want to just plop a dice cube on the hsf, wont be effective w/o a liquid interface (acetone). if you have any ideas for a cylinder thats 2inches diameter max,
    and preferably with good mass let me know. been all around town here looking for pencil holders, toothbrush holders, soda cans, sardine cans, measuring cups.. etc.

    none of which were fit for the task at hand.

    good luck with your runs!

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    did you know: i just found out you can go more than 1.55v in the BIOS.
    wuttz will this work on any mobo or just the one you have?
    nice clocks you have, BTW have you tried 555 Sardine can their a bit slim

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    Quote Originally Posted by duron View Post
    wuttz will this work on any mobo or just the one you have? nice clocks you have, BTW have you tried 555 Sardine can their a bit slim
    depends on the mobo's BIOS, this gigabyte goes up to 2.0v for cpu-vcore!

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    Quote Originally Posted by charged3800z24 View Post
    Some of the links are not working. Images are dead.
    Which ones aren't working? I checked them in the preview before I posted then again a few minutes ago and they all work here. Anyone else having trouble with my links?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theoldtimer View Post
    Which ones aren't working? I checked them in the preview before I posted then again a few minutes ago and they all work here. Anyone else having trouble with my links?
    I cannot see the 1st and 4th. weird. It is probably just me, I am having issues this week apparently
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    Quote Originally Posted by charged3800z24 View Post
    I cannot see the 1st and 4th. weird. It is probably just me, I am having issues this week apparently
    Ok, I'll edit the original post and place the first and fourth images up. I was just trying to keep from cluttering up the thread with stock bench photos.

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