The Fermi Thread - Part 3

**Rock&Roll** · 03-17-2010, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by Sadasius

Charlie knew because Nvidia has bad security and is a leaking boat of informants that are not paid enough?

Anyway since Fermi is looking like it blows at the moment I am awaiting this....the 6870X2 special edition! Okay maybe not....Still interested in what the price of Fermi will be.

You'd think whoever took the time to shop that would have at least stuck a PLX chip on there.

**onethreehill** · 03-17-2010, 10:24 PM

GTX480 512 ???

GTX470 448 ???

http://www.szgalaxy.com/Fermi/

**p2501** · 03-17-2010, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by onethreehill

GTX480 512 ???

GTX470 448 ???

http://www.szgalaxy.com/Fermi/

Would be awesome if true.

**Andrea deluxe** · 03-17-2010, 10:54 PM

512sp..........

**Carfax** · 03-17-2010, 11:02 PM

That 512sp part has my name on it

**Coldon** · 03-17-2010, 11:23 PM

i dont care if the 5870 is close to the 480, it cant run two high res screens so its completely useless for me. Editing the bios and tweaking doesnt scare me but should i have to do that straight out the box to get the card to do something my 8400gs/8800gtx/gtx260 does perfectly?

**Tim** · 03-18-2010, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by Tim

Can anybody actually show me the source/rumour of where it says that the GTX 480 will have 448SP?

Anything I have seen so far are rumours, still it's already being preached as the truth.

^^ Answer me this please.

**Sampsa** · 03-18-2010, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by Tim

^^ Answer me this please.

There is no rumor that GTX 480 would have 448 SP.

GTX 480 has been rumored to have either 480 or 512 SP.

**Picao84** · 03-18-2010, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by Sampsa

There is no rumor that GTX 480 would have 448 SP.

GTX 480 has been rumored to have either 480 or 512 SP.

Wrong. There was Charlie here:

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2009/12/...-fermi-448sps/

It was based on Tesla Models, which have 448 SP.

**TRANCEFORMER** · 03-18-2010, 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by onethreehill

GTX480 512 ???

GTX470 448 ???

http://www.szgalaxy.com/Fermi/

i have been only reading. but this is really interest me. i couldnt help it but post. i feel its confirmed now that the gtx 480 is 512sp. i guess they wont post the wrong info on their website, right ?

i think Nvidia did all this to make as much hype for the card i bet it will sell like hot cakes when its released

**LordEC911** · 03-18-2010, 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by weston

no, water cooling is pretty likely to get over 1000Mhz core which is (1000/850*100% = 117%) basically 15% performance boost once it's all said and done. Air cooling usually maxes out at 925-950 depending on fan speeds.

I think it's really funny that Charlie has ended up being one of the most reliable sources of info on fermi, and that is not good news for nVidia. If the 480 is 10% faster than the 5870, that will be a complete failure in my opinion. 8 months late, cut down shaders, lower clock speeds, cut down DP performance, heat issues, do I need to go on?

Certain custom 5870's have been hitting 1150mhz on air...

**eric66** · 03-18-2010, 02:08 AM

http://img.donanimhaber.com/images/haber/gtx4801.jpg

pretty much confirmed gtx 480 is one power hungry b_tch

**Funky** · 03-18-2010, 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by eric66

http://img.donanimhaber.com/images/haber/gtx4801.jpg

pretty much confirmed gtx 480 is one power hungry b_tch

did you save it? if yes, upload it somewhere else. Link is dead.

EDIT : FIXED LINK : http://donanimhaber.com/images/haber/gtx4801.jpg

**zerazax** · 03-18-2010, 02:16 AM

Board power: <300 W

clever

**tajoh111** · 03-18-2010, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by Picao84

Wrong. There was Charlie here:

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2009/12/...-fermi-448sps/

It was based on Tesla Models, which have 448 SP.

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/02/...and-unfixable/

. For those not interested in the 'why' side of things, the short answer is that the top bin as it stands now is about 600MHz for the half hot clock, and 1200MHz for the hot clock, and the initial top part will have 448 shaders. On top of that, the fab wafer yields are still in single digit percentages.

So charlie has said 448 shaders, 480 shaders and 512 shaders for the gtx 480 of course he going to be right.

Charlie covers his bases by gatling gunning rumors especially the negative ones. His fans forget when he is wrong and like to stress when he is right.

**tajoh111** · 03-18-2010, 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by LordEC911

Certain custom 5870's have been hitting 1150mhz on air...

What kind of custom? Even the lightnings the reviewers are getting are having a hardtime getting to 1 ghz.

**Picao84** · 03-18-2010, 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by zerazax

Board power: <300 W

clever

Hmm, ye. Noticed it too. I wonder if the specs are NOT YET finalised. Otherwise Zed_X will fail us maybe. That <300 W is not very confident for a part he said would be far from 298W.

**annihilat0r** · 03-18-2010, 02:32 AM

Ppl at Nvidia don't know the final specs themselves probably

<300W is really so specific... they could have gone with <501PW also.

**eric66** · 03-18-2010, 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by Picao84

Hmm, ye. Noticed it too. I wonder if the specs are NOT YET finalised. Otherwise Zed_X will fail us maybe. That <300 W is not very confident for a part he said would be far from 298W.

295 may be

seems green boys are going to renew there power supplies if they want enjoy 3d surround

**eric66** · 03-18-2010, 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by tajoh111

What kind of custom? Even the lightnings the reviewers are getting are having a hardtime getting to 1 ghz.

lightnings are crap anyway a lot of hype nothing inside

i have several friends who easily hit 1050 with small voltage bump with refference models

**~~RaV[666]~~** · 03-18-2010, 02:45 AM

To make a HD5870 get a good 10-15% performance gain, doncha need LN2 cooling anyways? The only real question is will it actually show up and run, seriously, the FX5800 and HD2900XT had more dignified timeframes.

You need just aircooling plus softwarte voltage increase(maybe) for a 10% increase,and many cards will do even +15% (thats still just 977Mhz core, some are doing 1ghz+).
However ,taking into consideration 10.3a catalysts even that much wont be necessary..
From legitreviews:

I certainly hope nvidia has some driver tweaks waiting to be unleashed also.

**annihilat0r** · 03-18-2010, 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by eric66

295 may be

seems green boys are going to renew there power supplies if they want enjoy 3d surround

You have 801 posts, and if Zed X's words come true, I think 600 of them will turn out to be laughable ATI fanboi stuff.

**eric66** · 03-18-2010, 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by annihilat0r

You have 801 posts, and if Zed X's words come true, I think 600 of them will turn out to be laughable ATI fanboi stuff.

god bless me i can read slides and if opposite happens what will zed x's will become ? half of his posts are already bs

**NapalmV5** · 03-18-2010, 02:55 AM

*sniff* ati monkeys poop all over the place but of course

this thread/3rd part is certainly turning great

**Picao84** · 03-18-2010, 02:56 AM

Neliz said this at B3D forums:

So, it's 512 CC now again. despite Fudo's estimates earlier this week

LOL! I bet nVIDIA has been doing a disinfo campaign to hide the truth.

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