The Fermi Thread - Part 3

[annihilat0r]

I don't get why 5970's double fixed tessellation units should have to do with anything. It's not like one tess. unit of one GPU can help the other. They both help the GPUs they are in. Performance scaling shouldn't be different when there's Tessellation than when there's no tessellation.

Saying the second tess. unit should help in tess. heavy environments is like saying the additional 1gb of RAM in 5970 should help in 2560 + 8xAA.

[ajaidev]

I don't get why 5970's double fixed tessellation units should have to do with anything. It's not like one tess. unit of one GPU can help the other. They both help the GPUs they are in. Performance scaling shouldn't be different when there's Tessellation than when there's no tessellation.

Saying the second tess. unit should help in tess. heavy environments is like saying the additional 1gb of RAM in 5970 should help in 2560 + 8xAA.

RAM is used for mirroring data but tessellation is used when rendering. SO its logical to assume that the tessellation unit will help GPU 0 to render half of scene while the other tessellation unit will help GPU 1 to render other half of scene.

[insurgent]

I don't get why 5970's double fixed tessellation units should have to do with anything. It's not like one tess. unit of one GPU can help the other. They both help the GPUs they are in. Performance scaling shouldn't be different when there's Tessellation than when there's no tessellation.

Saying the second tess. unit should help in tess. heavy environments is like saying the additional 1gb of RAM in 5970 should help in 2560 + 8xAA.

Do you get the same driver issues as GoldenTiger? Are the 5xxx drivers really sh1tty?

[eric66]

Do you get the same driver issues as GoldenTiger? Are the 5xxx drivers really sh1tty?

of course they are thats actually main reason why ppl are buying ati cards

[insurgent]

of course they are thats actually main reason why ppl are buying ati cards

Well I have a 4870 and no issues, and golden saw the need to post the same list twice (thrice?). I can make a list of issues too, but I'm not that an*l.

[GoldenTiger]

Well I have a 4870 and no issues, and golden saw the need to post the same list twice (thrice?). I can make a list of issues too, but I'm not that an*l.

I'm not being "an*l" I only posted it once here, at the end of the last thread in response to someone asking for it when I mentioned I had 5870 issues. The thread was locked so I posted it back in here so we could continue our discussion. The original quote was made at a different forum by me that I copied/pasted. These aren't minor issues that I am being "an*l" about and nitpicking: these are major visual glitches/errors that are persistent and constant, as well as other stability issues not listed. There's many many more that would be "nitpicking" to most people, believe me... I don't consider flickering bushes, being unable to force AA/AF in some games, etc. as "nitpicking" and I sincerely doubt many would.

In short, in my personal experiences, the 5870 drivers are mostly garbage: they get the card to run, but it looks like cr*p while doing so. As I said, I'm very much looking forward to being back on an nV card without all the rendering errors. In short, just because you disagree with my opinion and haven't personally had the issues doesn't mean many don't: no need to try to minimize me and claim "oh he posted it a buncha times, must be trolling!" when no such thing occurred .

Anyway... 26th is NDA drop, anyone know if any cards will be available then or is it the 6th as rumored for being on newegg/et. al ?

[insurgent]

I'm not being "an*l" I only posted it once here, at the end of the last thread in response to someone asking for it when I mentioned I had 5870 issues. The thread was locked so I posted it back in here so we could continue our discussion. The original quote was made at a different forum by me that I copied/pasted. These aren't minor issues that I am being "an*l" about and nitpicking: these are major visual glitches/errors that are persistent and constant, as well as other stability issues not listed. There's many many more that would be "nitpicking" to most people, believe me... I don't consider flickering bushes, being unable to force AA/AF in some games, etc. as "nitpicking" and I sincerely doubt many would.

In short, in my personal experiences, the 5870 drivers are mostly garbage: they get the card to run, but it looks like cr*p while doing so. As I said, I'm very much looking forward to being back on an nV card without all the rendering errors. In short, just because you disagree with my opinion and haven't personally had the issues doesn't mean many don't: no need to try to minimize me and claim "oh he posted it a buncha times, must be trolling!" when no such thing occurred .

Anyway... 26th is NDA drop, anyone know if any cards will be available then or is it the 6th as rumored for being on newegg/et. al ?

No I'm not disagreeing with you, I want to know if it's generally true, but the last time you posted that nobody really gave a damn and then you posted it here again when nobody really asked.

It's a week away so, let's hope for competitive pricing.