Socket 1567 Xeon Nehalem-EX

[trueg50]

Source

[-Sweeper_]

finally

[ChinStrap]

is that only 3 phase power per-cpu? (on shown board))

[Dainas]

Well as long as the components of the phase are up to it. The reason we look down upon smaller phases is the complete garbage used by standard mobo makes till they start bragging about the overclocking.

[Dalten]

Maybe, you wouldn't be using a bottom barrel Powmax power supply with that thing though. The juice powering a system like that would be coming from a true sine wave UPS into a power supply that's cleaner than a spit shined and polished bald head.

[zalbard]

Another wide CPU, huh?
Interesting, not all the elements are under the heat spreader...

[vietthanhpro]

socket 1567
Next year, Intel bring socket 2011 for sever segment !
Now we buy Nehalem EX system, next year we can't update CPU from Nehalem to Sandy Bridge !

[ajaidev]

socket 1567
Next year, Intel bring socket 2011 for sever segment !
Now we buy Nehalem EX system, next year we can't update CPU from Nehalem to Sandy Bridge !

Not totally true

Also take a look at this

[-Sweeper_]

socket 1567
Next year, Intel bring socket 2011 for sever segment !
Now we buy Nehalem EX system, next year we can't update CPU from Nehalem to Sandy Bridge !

i thought socket 2011 was 1366 replacement, not 1567....

[Salavat23]

Another wide CPU, huh?

The more cores you have side by side, the wider the CPU is.

[duploxxx]

Another wide CPU, huh?
Interesting, not all the elements are under the heat spreader...

that is beckton, paper launch on 30 March and availability expected somewhere in June.

The elements under the heat spreader are fb buffers, while they used to have fbdimm they now moved the buffers to the mobo to reduce the dimm cost and can work with legacy Rdimm ddr3. But now you get a very expensive mobo and some additional HOT spots as a trade off for some additional RAM features.

price will decide if this system will shine or not.

So if I do the math right, you're saying that 256GB = 100W. So if they shut down the rest of the memory, that would be 800W for CPUs, fans, power and a drive or two?

Wow, that is a power-hungry CPU.

they use max pc8500 ddr3 rdimm which consumes about 2.1W idle and 3.5W high load no LP, we don't know the amount of dimms in there and we have no idea what the buffers will consume, although my guess is about 4-5W idle and upto 8-10W load looking at those heatsinks. In the end whatever we try to figure out what exactly remains on or off, the fact indeed remains that there is still a lot of power consumed, on a not so high loaded system

[endlesszeal]

this may sound a bit noobish but where are the memory slots? is it on another add on board?

[Blauhung]

this may sound a bit noobish but where are the memory slots? is it on another add on board?

I believe that each of the PCI looking slots next to each socket are for memory bank riser boards

[Movieman]

I believe that each of the PCI looking slots next to each socket are for memory bank riser boards

Thanks, I was wondering where the memory was myself..

[endlesszeal]

Thanks, I was wondering where the memory was myself..

thanks for making me not feel like a noob .

and thanks blauhung for the info

[STEvil]

socket 2012: the end of the line for CPU performance as we know it?

[Fuji]

I'm not sure if Nehalem ex will support it, but Intel showed a technology that allows them to shut down some of their memory risers.

The system had 512 GB of RAM in 8 memory risers.

They shut down half the ram and decreased power consumption from 1000 watts to 900.

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/itdojo/?p=987

[JF-AMD]

I'm not sure if Nehalem ex will support it, but Intel showed a technology that allows them to shut down some of their memory risers.

The system had 512 GB of RAM in 8 memory risers.

They shut down half the ram and decreased power consumption from 1000 watts to 900.

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/itdojo/?p=987

So if I do the math right, you're saying that 256GB = 100W. So if they shut down the rest of the memory, that would be 800W for CPUs, fans, power and a drive or two?

Wow, that is a power-hungry CPU.

[Salavat23]

So if I do the math right, you're saying that 256GB = 100W. So if they shut down the rest of the memory, that would be 800W for CPUs, fans, power and a drive or two?

Wow, that is a power-hungry CPU.

Well, if it was used as a server, it would have had a lot of hard drives (10+). So I wouldn't say a drive or two.

[freeloader]

I'd buy that for a dollar!

[Micutzu]

So if I do the math right, you're saying that 256GB = 100W. So if they shut down the rest of the memory, that would be 800W for CPUs, fans, power and a drive or two?

Wow, that is a power-hungry CPU.

Actually, most of the power is consumed by the module that is being read/written at a certain time, so by removing some memory from a system you only save the power needed to refresh it, wich is about 10-20 times less than the one needed when active.

[Drwho?]

So if I do the math right, you're saying that 256GB = 100W. So if they shut down the rest of the memory, that would be 800W for CPUs, fans, power and a drive or two?

Wow, that is a power-hungry CPU.

well, let s be gentlemen ... you do the math on your own processors, and you avoid to mess up the math on mine. Thanks!
Your Timex watch is using less power than YOUR processor, it does not mean Timex CPU is a good server chip. Thanks!

On Xtremesystem, it is about horse power, world grid as fast as you can with awesome efficency ... but 1st, you want to top of the list ...

[Nedjo]

well, let s be gentlemen ... you do the math on your own processors, and you avoid to mess up the math on mine. Thanks!

Oh now only Intel's employes have exclusive rights to comment their product on public places like forums?

And when it comes to YOUR math, we all know that you do have special TDP math that only applies to Intel processors, so instead of 800W or 200W per CPU you'll say that TDP of these behemoths is actually 150W

So your "advice" to JF was in place - only Intel holds rights to Intel's TDP math!

BTW
I hope that you're not Rolling On The Floor so much in some data-center filled with cables

Your Timex watch is using less power than YOUR processor, it does not mean Timex CPU is a good server chip. Thanks!

Well apparently you think that 200W CPU that requires new socket on the new $XXXX mobo is good server chip!

You might not know this but I have no doubt that your business managers do know - This is just paper-launch chip useful only for pissing contest on forums, not something that conscious corporate buyer will consider, taking in to account power bills, infrastructure price and probably something else I can't think of it

On Xtremesystem, it is about horse power, world grid as fast as you can with awesome efficiency ... but 1st, you want to top of the list ...

Apparently you somehow selectively filler all those posts about power consumption of GPUs and CPUs... so yeah it is about the power, but it's also about power consumed

[Micutzu]

Even this is entertaining for us, come on guys, don't use flawed technical arguments. I said in a previous post that if shutting down half the memory reduced the power from 1000W to 900W, shutting down the rest won't reduce it by just another 100W but more, because idle memory consumes much less than active memory. Other than that, let's assume a system with 4 CPU's, a server motherboard, a few drives and a few fans consume 800W. A SCSI drive takes up to 20W, a high-power fan up to 15W, substract a few of each from the 800, substract a few more W for the various motherboard integrated stuff, then multiply everything with 0.9 (wich is a fair efficiency figure for the CPU PWM circuit), and you might end up just where you should.

On the other hand, in the testing done by us and also other hardware review websites, i haven't seen figures for the power consumption that would be far off the rated TDP.

[Movieman]

Oh now only Intel's employes have exclusive rights to comment their product on public places like forums?

And when it comes to YOUR math, we all know that you do have special TDP math that only applies to Intel processors, so instead of 800W or 200W per CPU you'll say that TDP of these behemoths is actually 150W

So your "advice" to JF was in place - only Intel holds rights to Intel's TDP math!

BTW
I hope that you're not Rolling On The Floor so much in some data-center filled with cables


Well apparently you think that 200W CPU that requires new socket on the new $XXXX mobo is good server chip!

You might not know this but I have no doubt that your business managers do know - This is just paper-launch chip useful only for pissing contest on forums, not something that conscious corporate buyer will consider, taking in to account power bills, infrastructure price and probably something else I can't think of it

Apparently you somehow selectively filler all those posts about power consumption of GPUs and CPUs... so yeah it is about the power, but it's also about power consumed

Before I clean the living crap out of this thread I want to say to you that this time Francois was right and fair in what he said.
He was replying to JF-AMD's comment and he works for AMD.
So do you from what I've been told.
XS is NOT the place for company employees to drop trou and have a "Whose is bigger" biatching match.
As I said politely earlier last night to one gentleman from a company: Tout your own product, don't dump on the other guy's.
I've seen this crap go on since I got here over 4 years ago.
When the hell are you children going to grow up?
It's a frigging processor not life or death and no matter how much either company dumps on the other it won't make a tinker's dam in your sales.
The public will decide that.
Honest to God, I'd like to reach out and slap some damned sense into some of you and it's always the same people.I think I'll grab some coffee before I lose my temper and start handing out bans!