What hype? People are doing their best to say it'll actually be worse. Also remember that K10 was actually a pretty big improvement over K8, before you all forget that.
What hype? People are doing their best to say it'll actually be worse. Also remember that K10 was actually a pretty big improvement over K8, before you all forget that.
Particle's First Rule of Online Technical Discussion:
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Rule 1A:
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
Rule 2:
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
Rule 2A:
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
Rule 3:
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
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You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
Guess you need to read some post in here again.. :pOriginally Posted by Particle
Clock for clock they only where ~5% faster then the athlons. There big "face saver" was quadcore, and the trend that apps used more then 2 threads.
Anyway thats the past, but as i mentioned there also was much hype about phenom before we got any hard facts.
This just reminds me of that.
5% ?? Are you joking?
10h @ 65nm is a solid 15-20% over 65nm/90nm K8 on average,per core and per clock ... A big jump in SSE(more than 20% naturally). 45nm 10h is a solid 8-10% again,on average ,over 10h @ 65nm.All this in client workloads. In server ones,10h killed K8(factoring 2x more cores and IPC improvements).
exactly, amd just had problems with the tlb bug and target dates. weather it means much to most ppl or not, the fact remains that it was the first for many things, such as true native core.....before everyone jumps on me, if it was not a good thing; then why is Nehalem the same way?
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