ATI 5850 / 5870 GSOD & Corruption Poll

[Biker]

Hi Guys,

After much reading here and elsewhere I wanted to try and get a clearer picture of the graphical corruption and screen of death issues a lot of us are having with our 5850 and 5870 cards (I know the 5890s are having lost of issues too but I think this card should have a different poll because it is a twin gpu card).

Specifically I would like to know what OS you guys are running when you get issues or whether everything is running fine.

I realise there are 2 threads running already about this but I felt a poll thread was appropriate too as this issue seems so widespread.

You can select more than one choice to reflect your testing.

5850 & 5870 only (if there is high demand I will happily start a similar poll for the 5970).

Anyway, vote away folks and lets put some numbers to this issue

[BenchZowner]

GSOD & VGA Driver recoveries, 5870, all Windows OSes, overclocked & stock.
System is 100% stable, needless to say.

[Biker]

GSOD & VGA Driver recoveries, 5870, all Windows OSes, overclocked & stock.
System is 100% stable, needless to say.

Dammit I was hoping to be safe with XP 32 bit

Definitely looking like hardware in your case...

I take it that this was more than one card / brand?

Were the OS's patched / unpatched or did it not seem to matter?

[BenchZowner]

2 different cards, both showcasing the same symptoms with all drivers ( 9.10, 9.11, 9.12, 9.12hf, 10.1, 10.2b )

XP SP3.
Vista pre-SP1, Vista SP1, same result
Win 7 same updated & not updated ( OEM disc )

Asus & Jiggabyte

[w4tch0]

Running a reference Sapphire 5850 on Win 7 64bit. After 10.1 GSOD hotfix driver I didn't get another GSOD for over 10days ... than I flashed the new sapphire BIOS (keeping same driver), no GSOD for another few days. Seems to be fixed for me.

[Musho]

Never had any GSODs in 2D. Not with the hotfix drivers, nor the drivers before those. 3D is a completely different story, however. GSODs, striped screens, solid colored screens, driver recoveries, you name it. No matter what driver/bios. It happens both at stock as on overclock settings, even though the overclock settings are 25 LinX loops, 24h blend and 1h OCCT stable. Tried another 30 loops of LinX to see if anything degraded, but it was still 100% stable. The videocard passes multiple hours of OCCT GPU test at shader complexity of "3". I'm completely at a loss here. I even went as far as running LinX and OCCT GPU at the same time to see if higher power usage made things unstable...It didn't. When switching drivers I always make sure I completely uninstalled the previous driver and even run driversweeper for good measure. Happening on Vista x64

[Rattle]

i picked the last option, this 5850 runs 850/1200 24/7 and i never get any of this, my preferred driver is ATI_8.70_RC2_Vista_Win7_Jan14. its the best since 9.12 hotfix for me and i have used EVERY beta out there.
I use the msi 5850 bios and its a dream, i like the card better than the 5870 i had.

[Musho]

i picked the last option, this 5850 runs 850/1200 24/7 and i never get any of this, my preferred driver is ATI_8.70_RC2_Vista_Win7_Jan14. its the best since 9.12 hotfix for me and i have used EVERY beta out there.
I use the msi 5850 bios and its a dream, i like the card better than the 5870 i had.

Why did you switch from a 5870 to a 5850? And why do you like the 5850 better? I mean, sure, the 5850 might be a better videocard from a financial perspective, but the 5870 is simply the fastest of the two. Is your 5850 more stable or something?

[Rattle]

I didnt have stability issues with the 5870 really, only real sweet driver was 9.12 hotfix for it though, I game at 1920x1200 at 4x AA and the 5850 with a decent OC isnt really any slower than a 5870 that I can tell on a 775 setup or 1156 setup, both overclocked of course.
Plus, I just like to play with video cards :P

[demowhc]

Pair of XFX 5850's in crossfire here and havn't had a single issue in the 4 weeks I'v owned them. (touch wood)

[Biker]

Ok.

Had my 5870 for about 8 hours and no 3D corruption or GSOD's yet.. but....

I'm getting some interesting stuff in 2D:





Windows XP SP3 x86

10.2 beta (full install)

[ReverendMaynard]

I voted Xp 32b, Vista 32b, 7 32b and 7 64b. All the same crap.

[jaredpace]

A good majority appear to have probs in win 7 64bit

[BenchZowner]

A good majority appear to have probs in win 7 64bit

Because most of them have tested their cards in Win7 x64 only

[Biker]

Because most of them have tested their cards in Win7 x64 only

My thinking precisely

[fornowagain]

My two are fine, but if there was a problem I'd have to report it as Windows 7 64bit as that's what I use exclusively. As I suspect do a lot of the people that voted so not much point.

[dctokyo]

Issues? What Issues? My card is running fine! XFX 5870 version 1.5 drivers are 10.1......... Vista/64

[Biker]

My two are fine, but if there was a problem I'd have to report it as Windows 7 64bit as that's what I use exclusively. As I suspect do a lot of the people that voted so not much point.

Which OS has the most corruption / GSOD's is not the issue here.

What this poll is attempting to establish is whether these issues occur independently of what OS is used or if there might be some causal link.

A lot of people will test on one OS only.

Others will test many.

All votes are still valid.

[ReverendMaynard]

From my personal testing, the issue has absolutely nothing to do with the OS, 32b or 64b. As much as AMD would like to make us think this is our problem, it's 100% theirs.

[Lightman]

My card was GSODing in taxing titles like Dirt2 or Cysis when memory was OCed or stock.
But with driver fix I've tried stock clocks and nothing is happening. Seems that my issue was sorted by driver update then

PS. just to be clear it did happen couple of times on the desktop as well, but I had it maybe once in a week time or so.

[Alexandr0s]

Problem with this poll is that the use of different OS is not spread out evenly. If we assume that the problem appears on all systems, the only result we can conclude is that half the people don't have a problem, and 1/3 of the people with problems run 7 64 bit. This does not neccesarily mean 7 64 bit is more sensitive to the problem than other OS, it could also just mean there are a lot of people running windows 7 here .
To get conclusive results, we'll need another poll in the general forum asking everyone what operating system they use (if it doesn't exist already). Combining both numbers should give an estimation of each OS's sensitivity to the problem.

[fornowagain]

Which OS has the most corruption / GSOD's is not the issue here.

What this poll is attempting to establish is whether these issues occur independently of what OS is used or if there might be some causal link.

A lot of people will test on one OS only.

Others will test many.

All votes are still valid.

Nope its going to be massively biased, its only relevant if all the OS's were tested on the same cards. It could still be a W7 x64 problem or not, you can't tell from that poll. You'd need an equal sample size from each OS to balance and that's obviously not going to happen in an open poll. Best that will tell you is the ratio of people bothered enough to answer with problems vs those who haven't.

[BenchZowner]

@fornowagain...
I tested 2 cards on every OS ( Win XP x86/x64, Win Vista x86/x64, Win7 x86/x64 )...
Same e.
And I'm quite sure if somebody from the Win7 x64 list decides to install another OS he'll have the same symptoms as well

[fornowagain]

I don't doubt it, doesn't validate the poll though.

Now like BenchZowner everyone has to test and add a vote for every OS listed...

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@BenchZowner, interesting you have two cards that do it. Have you tried either in another system? With a different motherboard + psu etc would be nice.

[Biker]

Nope its going to be massively biased, its only relevant if all the OS's were tested on the same cards. It could still be a W7 x64 problem or not, you can't tell from that poll. You'd need an equal sample size from each OS to balance and that's obviously not going to happen in an open poll. Best that will tell you is the ratio of people bothered enough to answer with problems vs those who haven't.

Look.

The point of the poll is to find out how many users have issues.

The point of the poll is not to narrow it down by operating system.

If the poll is not set up empirically or objectively enough for your exacting scientific standards then I can only humbly apologise.

It would have been impossible to have set the poll up in the more open ended way you suggested (whether more desirable to do so or not) due to the restrictions on poll construction here by Vbulletin and Xtremesystems.

At the moment it is running at pretty much 50% having issues and 50% not having issues.

That is the interesting data here.