The GT300/Fermi Thread - Part 2!

[saaya]

yeah, they just magically rebranded directX 10.1 into their chips too. 40nm doesnt count for anything either?

actually those 40nm chips clock worse than the 55nm chips dont they?

Jowy A, shouldn't you be mad at ati for rebranding the 4870 as a 5770? just because it's built on 40nm and has dx11 doesn't mean it's new!

dx11 is enough to make it a different part in my books... its pretty irrelevant, at least now, but its a real change... 10.0 to 10.1 isnt really... if you look at the changes they had to make to go from .0 to .1 its really more of a revision, not a new part... if even that... i mean the 260 v2 with more sps was a more notable improvement and bigger change...

5770 is a 4870 with lower temps, it clocks better, and costs less, and has dx11

nvidia has lower temps too, but worse clocks, same or HIGHER costs and no dx11

i think calling it a g92 rebrand is the nice thing to do here... cause g92 was a kick4ss product, if you call this 10.1 chip a new chip, you would have to call it a square silicon piece of F A I L... calling it a rebrand sounds much more favorable

[570091D]

actually those 40nm chips clock worse than the 55nm chips dont they?


dx11 is enough to make it a different part in my books... its pretty irrelevant, at least now, but its a real change... 10.0 to 10.1 isnt really... if you look at the changes they had to make to go from .0 to .1 its really more of a revision, not a new part... if even that... i mean the 260 v2 with more sps was a more notable improvement and bigger change...

5770 is a 4870 with lower temps, it clocks better, and costs less, and has dx11

nvidia has lower temps too, but worse clocks, same or HIGHER costs and no dx11

i think calling it a g92 rebrand is the nice thing to do here... cause g92 was a kick4ss product, if you call this 10.1 chip a new chip, you would have to call it a square silicon piece of F A I L... calling it a rebrand sounds much more favorable

okay, so my sarcasm was lost on everyone.

here's the deal, the gt240 is gt200 based.



the 9800gt's g92 and the gt240's gt215 probably have more differences than the 4870 -> 5770. yeah, the 5770 has dx11 and all of that jazz, but it's still basicly a modified and shrunk 4870. the gt215 is meant to fill the market UNDER g92 products... ironic isn't it? i'm not trying to defend the gt240, it's only remarkable feature is a 9w idle draw, but calling it an 8800 or 9800gt rebrand is just silly.

[saaya]

here's the deal, the gt240 is gt200 based.

sorry, but what exactly is the difference between the g92 and g200?
nvidia bumped up the specs to almost double, but they used the same building blocks, right?

so nvidia has pumped up their design and then cut it back to bellow where they started from and revised some features allowing them to place more checkmarks in the dx table giving them a 10.1 instead of 10.0...

ati went from dx10.1 to dx11 and reworked the way textures are filtered and how aa works afaik... thats def a bigger difference imo...

[570091D]

so nvidia has pumped up their design and then cut it back to bellow where they started from and revised some features allowing them to place more checkmarks in the dx table giving them a 10.1 instead of 10.0...

yes, now in what way is that rebranding cards? to me it looks like they're filling a gap in the lower end of the market place. i could care less if you don't like the card or nvidia's market strategy, i don't like it either, but let's not make this out to be something it's not.

now let's all smoke a bowl and relax....

[saaya]

yes, now in what way is that rebranding cards? to me it looks like they're filling a gap in the lower end of the market place. i could care less if you don't like the card or nvidia's market strategy, i don't like it either, but let's not make this out to be something it's not.

in the 40nm 10.1 parts its not rebranding cards, its rebranding tech...
its almost the same as rebranding cards...

the only reason anybody does this is to artificially increase the value of its products beyond what its really worth... and how anybody can say theres nothing wrong with that is beyond me... your basically defending or cheering for somebody whos bending you over... i guess some people are into getting bent over ^^

Except Nvidia's renaming department, they already got enough.
j/k

i think they are on something harder than weed...
nvidia marketing and sales seem more like your average speed/cocain fr3ak than a chillaxed weeder...

[highoctane]

These are computer parts, everything is recycled, rebranded, regurgitated, cut down, binned, changed slightly and push off as the next great thing year after year.

I mean they add a couple mb of cache to a cpu and you have a totally new product, add a higher bin to memory and you now market uber speed memory, change the bezel on an lcd panel and different companies can market the same core product, wrap a new shell on a mouse, add a fan hole to an existing case design.

Everything gets blown way out of proportion....