Thuban & Zosma info/code name from anandtech "Juicy"

[zalbard]

That's a nice feature, pretty useful for single threaded applications. Wonder if they are going to let us customize it, though, like setting the multiplier increase.

[duploxxx]

all of this is based on the new AMD-P 2.0, but those rumours of hardware based version are growing fast, i'll stick with the unknown for now.

[Manicdan]

i wonder if this means they can shut off all but one of the cores, and even run that last core at 800mhz for some ultra low idle power. would be really sick

[informal]

According to GloFo's pdf here, they seem to be introducing the HKMG tech. into their 45nm products this quarter.In their own words :"in early 2010 - not test chips, not 64M SRAMS, not IP shuttle results,but full products."

There is a chance that Thuban/Lisbon are incorporating these process tech. changes which in turn could allow more aggressive clocks(for both Turbo state and "6 core mode").

[Lightman]

Sounds exiting!
Now only not to get too exited

I will be after house purchase by March so let it come AMD!

[Manicdan]

the more i hear about this, the more i wonder if i should replace my PII 940 with one of these, or if ill really care and should wait for 8 core BD goodness

[Macadamia]

According to GloFo's pdf here, they seem to be introducing the HKMG tech. into their 45nm products this quarter.In their own words :"in early 2010 - not test chips, not 64M SRAMS, not IP shuttle results,but full products."

There is a chance that Thuban/Lisbon are incorporating these process tech. changes which in turn could allow more aggressive clocks(for both Turbo state and "6 core mode").

Direct reason why Thuban is 1.5 years (gosh it's been so long) after Deneb I suppose. Not because Istanbul is a b*tch to make (Barcey took that long too) but probably on the foundry side. We'll see though.

[Hans de Vries]

According to GloFo's pdf here, they seem to be introducing the HKMG tech. into their 45nm products this quarter.In their own words :"in early 2010 - not test chips, not 64M SRAMS, not IP shuttle results,but full products."

There is a chance that Thuban/Lisbon are incorporating these process tech. changes which in turn could allow more aggressive clocks(for both Turbo state and "6 core mode").

They are talking about the announcement of 28/32nm HKMG product
results in Q1 2010. It's not about 45nm products. See the summary
table in the left most column.

Regards, Hans

[informal]

They are talking about the announcement of 28/32nm HKMG product
results in Q1 2010. It's not about 45nm products. See the summary
table in the left most column.

Regards, Hans

Hi Hans,thanks for pointing that out ,I must have missed it.

[Lightman]

the more i hear about this, the more i wonder if i should replace my PII 940 with one of these, or if ill really care and should wait for 8 core BD goodness

We're in the same boat then!
But I'm 95% sure I will pull the trigger for Thuban!
2011 is too far in the future, I might not live long enough so why wait?

[Manicdan]

well if its drop into my DDR2 rig, and has all the features, it would be nice for a while and i wont have to get BD right when it comes out, and can wait until its more mature.

[haylui]

We're in the same boat then!
But I'm 95% sure I will pull the trigger for Thuban!
2011 is too far in the future, I might not live long enough so why wait?

yeah
just pull the trigger!!!!!!!!

[haylui]

well if its drop into my DDR2 rig, and has all the features, it would be nice for a while and i wont have to get BD right when it comes out, and can wait until its more mature.

most probably it just drops in but I doubt it would be as fast as DDR3 part
make sure your board could support it

[Manicdan]

most probably it just drops in but I doubt it would be as fast as DDR3 part
make sure your board could support it

not worried about the difference between ddr2 and 3, as long as all the cpu features exists. and i should support it after a bios update

[mindfury]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...echnology.html

At present only select Intel Corp.’s microprocessors feature Turbo Boost technology that can accelerate certain cores when they are needed while slowing down the unneeded cores. However, with the introduction of AMD Phenom II X6 “Thuban” processors similar capability will also be available on chips from Advanced Micro Devices, sources close to the company revealed to X-bit labs.

There are not a lot of details available at this point, but what we do know is that when single-thread performance is needed most, Thuban processors will automatically disable idle cores and overclock the remaining engines to the maximum possible level that is determined by general thermal design power. The technology will be completely hardware-based, hence, will work in any operating system that supports six-core chips. The technology is presently called “C-state performance boost”, however, it is more than likely that AMD will introduce a better sounding marketing name when it launches six-core chips in the second quarter of the year.

[FlanK3r]

yes, this is right (confirmed it)

[LightSpeed]

Thats great news. Really. Thinking if I should go for it, but any estimates on price?

[haylui]

i wonder if this means they can shut off all but one of the cores, and even run that last core at 800mhz for some ultra low idle power. would be really sick

for Thuban I am not sure
for BullDozer, is yes