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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle View Post
    I've explained why I have that opinion in the previous post
    Unless I'm misunderstanding your post and the point you're making, you're suggesting that you need a multi-core CPU in order to run the extra threads, I.e. That you cannot have multiple threads co-existing on the same core. This is not true, you could run all of the threads on a single physical core if you wished.

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    on those points, with steam i dont think that its hard to join as a group u just have one person in and get people to join through them u dont have to give out IP addresses or anything. and for the servers most servers are marked as moded or with settings or they are stock or close to stock, with any BF game or COD i cant think of anything that was common to change exept for fog of war settings. for the admin thing, there is no admin on MW2 so when vac fails as it always dose u cant do anything but leave the server.
    But even joining through Steam, the problem I was trying to point out is that by the time the first person has joined, some of the slots required for your group may have been taken. In other words, the group joining is not an "atomic operation", I.e. Taking place at the same time.

    Secondly, when Steam tried to split modified servers up properly with the second list, they were met by an angry mob and server owners who would try and fool the system to get their modded server on the normal list. It's actually quite hard to not find a non-modded server with free slots and the map you want.

    Using MW2 as an example, some of the undesirable modifications which have been done are low gravity, infinite ammo and XP changes - All of which mess up the balance of XP and in some case allow easy stats boosting.

    I've actually seen very few players on MW2 who are defiantly cheating, yet I've heard plenty of people shooting at others who are clearly not. How would you feel if you were to be very good at the game, get accused of cheating and getting votekicked or banned by some sore player ? I'm not saying that it wouldn't help some situations, but I think it would disrupt the game for some of the better players out there. Let's not forget the countless players who would get kicked or banned for "noob tubing" and "camping".

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    ive rarely seen people in source games votekicked who wernt cheating (be it hacks or exploits), i know that it dose happen but in places with no admins at all i find more cheaters (unless its a cheating clans server). i think that dice is finding a good common ground were they stop moding and rank cheats but they give out servers so the game can work properly and they get some kickbacks
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    I agree with yngndrw I rarely see people cheating in MW2 as well, I expected a lot more to be honest...
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    Quote Originally Posted by yngndrw View Post
    Unless I'm misunderstanding your post and the point you're making, you're suggesting that you need a multi-core CPU in order to run the extra threads, I.e. That you cannot have multiple threads co-existing on the same core. This is not true, you could run all of the threads on a single physical core if you wished.
    All I can tell you is read through my previous post again to get a better understanding. Also, read their recommended system specs .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle View Post
    All I can tell you is read through my previous post again to get a better understanding. Also, read their recommended system specs .
    I did re-read it when I wrote that reply to double check.

    I know their recommended specifications mention a dual-core, but that's missing the point. The point I'm trying to make is that if you have two processors of comparable architecture, let's say one is a dual-core 1GHz and the other is a single-core 2GHz - They will give approximately the same performance. The reason why you now see slower multi-core processors is because of efficiency I believe, however the end result is the same. Specifically the point is that the multiple threads will happily co-exist no-matter how many physical cores you have, it is the operating system's job to manage that.

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    exactly my point... 16bit vs 24bit is a moot point...

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    Finally, an update to the beta situation, specifically how to acquire it: http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/batt...29-n-dice.aspx .


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    Its crap that i ordered three copies from game.co.uk, they dont give away any beta's
    I pre-ordered there because the BC 2 website linked me to them directly, kinda sucks.
    So if somebody could provide this poor guy a beta i would be very very happy and thankfull

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earzz View Post
    Its crap that i ordered three copies from game.co.uk, they dont give away any beta's
    I pre-ordered there because the BC 2 website linked me to them directly, kinda sucks.
    So if somebody could provide this poor guy a beta i would be very very happy and thankfull
    Same here got a mail from them yesterday where they told me "no keys" even though i have 2 pre-orders...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nullface View Post
    Same here got a mail from them yesterday where they told me "no keys" even though i have 2 pre-orders...
    Yeah its kinda poo isn it
    So does anybody has a spare key for this poor guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earzz View Post
    Its crap that i ordered three copies from game.co.uk, they dont give away any beta's
    I pre-ordered there because the BC 2 website linked me to them directly, kinda sucks.
    So if somebody could provide this poor guy a beta i would be very very happy and thankfull
    That's why it's cheaper from game.co.uk
    Your actually paying a premium to participate in this 3 week beta.

    game.co.uk = £25
    DL versions/Steam = £35
    play.com = £27, but this is not the ltd edition.

    It's a pretty cheap scam imo.

    But like you, i pre-ordered from game as it's next door to university.
    But if you want to participate in the beta, i recommend pre-ordering from play.com, and then cancel your order once the beta's over.
    I've done this for several games and not had an issue so far.

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    so there's no way to participate in the beta unless i pre-order the game? and even then i'm paying a premium to get a beta key? ROFL.

    btw:
    Heads Up: PC Beta Players will secure their gamer alias (Soldier Name) for retail.
    yeah, nice way to make people pay for the beta...
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    Im sitting here waiting for the download to start on steam :-/

    I just hope this game supports Eyefinity resolutions. MW2 and COD4 I have to use a 3rd party program to make it work right. Need for Speed Shift and TF2 work on Eyefinity flawlessly without any 3rd party programs. This game hopefully will look great DX11 @ 5760 X 1080.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaZz! View Post
    so there's no way to participate in the beta unless i pre-order the game? and even then i'm paying a premium to get a beta key? ROFL.

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    yeah, nice way to make people pay for the beta...
    Can you suggest a better way to give beta keys out to people who are actually going to care about the game?

    Also, the special edition (the one with the beta keys) is the same price as the normal edition in the US. You guys just get screwed by what EA sets the price at in other countries.
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    Beta should be free, how else can I know if the game is good or not?


    Paying for beta is like paying for a car test drive - you don't wanna do this, do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi View Post
    Beta should be free, how else can I know if the game is good or not?


    Paying for beta is like paying for a car test drive - you don't wanna do this, do you?
    You are confused between BETA and DEMO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobyTT View Post
    You are confused between BETA and DEMO!
    Agreed. When was the last time there was a demo for any major game anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaZz! View Post
    so there's no way to participate in the beta unless i pre-order the game? and even then i'm paying a premium to get a beta key? ROFL.
    No, you don't. There was a site up where you could sign up to get keys and unfortenately, everyone got one (some even two or three). I got one as well although I didn't pre-order

    But the servers are laggy as hell and you get kicked while connection all of the time. Business as usual Well, I should be learning anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobyTT View Post
    You are confused between BETA and DEMO!

    Yes, sorry but in any case DICE should be thankful that people are ready to beta test the game and not charge for it by forcing you to preorder.

    By the way you can get free beta keys here:
    http://www.fileplay.net/keys
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi View Post
    Yes, sorry but in any case DICE should be thankful that people are ready to beta test the game and not charge for it by forcing you to preorder.

    By the way you can get free beta keys here:
    http://www.fileplay.net/keys
    For some reason i'm having problems by just creating the account
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    And they are out of keys...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacky View Post
    For some reason i'm having problems by just creating the account
    Because there account servers are carpping out... its not even funny... and the worse thing is, you can't play even if you have created an account and were able to join a server, it lags like mad. Timewarps (up to 5 seconds etc.)

    And thats one reason why freaking stats in fps suck... cause now they track every moevment of your doing... if the statserver craps out... no more gaming...

    I miss the old bf1942 days...

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    The 16 vs 32 is fail they should have had option's for 16,24 and 32bit from the beginning.Also why research and develop 32,48bit and so on if there is no benefit,sound's dumb.!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet331 View Post
    Because there account servers are carpping out... its not even funny... and the worse thing is, you can't play even if you have created an account and were able to join a server, it lags like mad. Timewarps (up to 5 seconds etc.)

    And thats one reason why freaking stats in fps suck... cause now they track every moevment of your doing... if the statserver craps out... no more gaming...

    I miss the old bf1942 days...
    Jesus its a beta, almost a alpha build, it will have lots of problems at first...

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