I'm looking more for fixes related to:
- Once a display on Display Port is turned off, the driver reconfigures the desktop, removing it from an extended configuration entirely (thanks)
- No more random flickering on 5000 series cards when using an extended desktop
- Way to switch between an extended and eyefinity desktop that actually works
Hoping that some of those made it in.
Particle's First Rule of Online Technical Discussion:
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Rule 1A:
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
Rule 2:
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
Rule 2A:
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
Rule 3:
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
Doesn't raising the 2D clocks fix that?Originally Posted by Particle
uninstalled 9.12 with the hotfix before installing 10.1...after reboot cat still says 9.12...wtf
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MoBo- ASUS Crosshair IV
Graphics Card-XFX R9 280X [out for RMA] using HD5870
Hard Drive-Kingston 240Gig V300 master Seagate 160Gb slave Seagate 250Gb slave Seagate 500Gb slave Western Digital 500Gb
CPU-AMD FX-8320 5Ghz
RAM 8Gig Corshair c8
Logitech 5.1 Z5500 BOOST22
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http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/933ab/
It makes it better, but it never goes away it would seem. I'd try overclocking and seeing if that helped even further, but my card can't overclock at all.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
The 5800's have been out since october and they still cannot fix the extended display flickering issue. This is why i appreciate nvidia so much, better drivers, always has, always will. I have a 5800 and i cannot use my second screen because it flickers, it has been turned off for 3 months now.
EDIT: I am patiently waiting for Fermi, then my 5800 goes to one of my customers.
Better driversThe 5800's have been out since october and they still cannot fix the extended display flickering issue. This is why i appreciate nvidia so much, better drivers, always has, always will. I have a 5800 and i cannot use my second screen because it flickers, it has been turned off for 3 months now.
EDIT: I am patiently waiting for Fermi, then my 5800 goes to one of my customers.I have an LG246W monitor which after 3 years STILL DOESN'T WORK properly on ANY nVidia card. You have to use as registry hack to get it to work. I'm running nVidia, but they just refuse to address this issue which should be a very easy fix.
i5 750 4.20GHz @ NH-D14 | 8GB | P7P55DLE | 8800U | Indilinx SSD + Samsung F3 | HAF922 + CM750W
Past: Q6600 @ 3.60 E6400 @ 3.60 | E6300 @ 3.40 | O165 @ 2.90 | X2 4400+ @ 2.80 | X2 3800+ @ 2.70 | VE 3200+ @ 2.80 | WI 3200+ @ 2.75 | WI 3000+ no IHS @ 2.72 | TBB 1700+ @ 2.60 | XP-M 2500+ @ 2.63 | NC 2800+ @ 2.40 | AB 1.60GHz @ 2.60
Here are my results with AA and ANI, plus one bug report: This release doesn't properly put my CRT to sleep, it only blanks the screen. 9.12 and 9.12 hotfix did not do that.
Benchmark Log File created on 1/24/2010 at 3:32:51 PM
Number of cores 4 (max 8)
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz
Core Stepping C0/C1
Multiplier x FSB 21.00 x 196.0 MHz
Stock frequency 2666 MHz
L2 cache 4 x 256 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Northbridge Intel X58 rev. 12
Memory Size 6144 MBytes
Memory Frequency 784.0 MHz (2:8)
CAS# latency (CL) 7.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 7
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 7
Cycle Time (tRAS) 24
DMI BIOS
date 09/03/2009
Motherboard Info
vendor ASUSTeK Computer INC.
model P6T DELUXE V2
Windows Version Microsoft Windows 7 (6.1) Ultimate Edition (Build 7600)
DirectX Version 10.0
cardname: ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series
vendor: ATI
memsize: 1024
driverversion: atiumdag 8.14.10.0716 (Catalyst 9.12) / Win7 64
clockgpu: 980
clockmem: 1235
Audio:Sound Blaster X-fi Fatal1ty
Tests performed at 1600x1200x32, 4x FSAA & 16x Anistropic (Quality setting)
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Results for Quake3:
AVERAGE FPS: 798.85
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Results for UT2004FlyBy:
AVERAGE FPS: 574
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Results for UT2004Botmatch:
AVERAGE FPS: 119.7
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Results for Comanche4:
AVERAGE FPS: 159.8
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Results for HalfLife2:
AVERAGE FPS: 429.5
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Results for SeriousSam2:
AVERAGE FPS: 248.2
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Results for Doom3:
AVERAGE FPS: 307.5
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Results for HalfLife2_Lost_Coast:
AVERAGE FPS: 245.9
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Results for Supreme_Commander:
AVERAGE FPS: 81.91
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Results for Company_of_Heroes_DX9:
AVERAGE FPS: 312.4
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Results for Company_of_Heroes_DX10:
AVERAGE FPS: 147.15
***************************************
Results for Crysis_Island_DX9_HIGH:
AVERAGE FPS: 54.11
***************************************
Results for Crysis_Island_DX10_VERY_HIGH:
AVERAGE FPS: 34
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Results for Dirt2_DX9_High:
AVERAGE FPS: 99.27
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Results for Dirt2_DX11_Ultra:
AVERAGE FPS: 60.21
***************************************
Benchmarks finished at 4:32:00 PM
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GRINGOMARKtm=193
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Benchmark Log File created on 1/27/2010 at 2:25:51 PM
<Clip; same start-up info as before>
Tests performed at 1600x1200x32, 4x FSAA & 16x Anistropic (Quality setting)
************************************************** ******************************
Results for Quake3:
AVERAGE FPS: 842.5
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Results for UT2004FlyBy:
AVERAGE FPS: 569.2
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Results for UT2004Botmatch:
AVERAGE FPS: 119.9
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Results for Comanche4:
AVERAGE FPS: 158
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Results for HalfLife2:
AVERAGE FPS: 434.7
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Results for SeriousSam2:
AVERAGE FPS: 250.1
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Results for Doom3:
AVERAGE FPS: 306.6
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Results for HalfLife2_Lost_Coast:
AVERAGE FPS: 247.9
***************************************
Results for Supreme_Commander:
AVERAGE FPS: 82.22
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Results for Company_of_Heroes_DX9:
AVERAGE FPS: 314.5
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Results for Company_of_Heroes_DX10:
AVERAGE FPS: 148.55
***************************************
Results for Crysis_Island_DX9_HIGH:
AVERAGE FPS: 54.11
***************************************
Results for Crysis_Island_DX10_VERY_HIGH:
AVERAGE FPS: 34.16
***************************************
Results for Dirt2_DX9_High:
AVERAGE FPS: 98.36
***************************************
Results for Dirt2_DX11_Ultra:
AVERAGE FPS: 60.17
***************************************
Benchmarks finished at 3:26:07 PM
***************************************
GRINGOMARKtm=194
***************************************
Last edited by Truckchase!; 01-27-2010 at 05:41 PM. Reason: Removed redundant information from benchmark output files to make post smaller.
Asus P6T-DLX V2 1104 & i7 920 @ 4116 1.32v(Windows Reported) 1.3375v (BIOS Set) 196x20(1) HT OFF
6GB OCZ Platinum DDR3 1600 3x2GB@ 7-7-7-24, 1.66v, 1568Mhz
Sapphire 5870 @ 985/1245 1.2v
X-Fi "Fatal1ty" & Klipsch ProMedia Ultra 5.1 Speaks/Beyerdynamic DT-880 Pro (2005 Model) and a mini3 amp
WD 150GB Raptor (Games) & 2x WD 640GB (System)
PC Power & Cooling 750w
Homebrew watercooling on CPU and GPU
and the best monitor ever made + a Samsung 226CW + Dell P2210 for eyefinity
Windows 7 Utimate x64
I have the same display and the monitor itself is at fault. However interestingly enough, I don't get the issue with my 5870 nor with my older 8800gt. The GT2xx series however is another story....
Good to see they at least acknowledge the verticle grey line issue... now as for fixing it...
Feedanator 7.0
CASE:R5|PSU:850G2|CPU:i7 6850K|MB:x99 Ultra|RAM:8x4 2666|GPU:980TI|SSD:BPX256/Evo500|SOUND:2i4/HS8
LCD:XB271HU|OS:Win10|INPUT:G900/K70 |HS/F:H115i
You mean as good as the 191.07 killing hardware?
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1462586
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=108974
a driver killing hardware? thats a first, i wouldnt really take that seriously besides a couple of isolated incidents. And im sure it didnt take months to fix it.
That all started with that stupid Evga thread with like four people who admit to having stability issues before installing 191.07 blaming the driver for "killing" their hardware.
I loved 191.07, it was actually really good to me. I found it to be very stable.
No, ATI need something like nHancer. I love that program.
Last edited by BababooeyHTJ; 01-28-2010 at 03:27 PM.
you mean those drivers from october 2009? its now jan 2010 and new ones have come out. LOL i love when people really really reach to try and post something to downplay another company. Because im sure EVERY ati release was perfect right? Jesus people....
i9-10900k@5.3ghz//MSI MEG z490 Unify//32GB Gskill TridentZ b.die@DDR4666//RTX 2080ti(+150/+700) kingpin bios//Samsung 970 Pro//Corsair AX1200i
Custom Loop: Dual DDCs->Dual EK XE360 w/GT's -> HK IV CPU -> HK IV GPU ->EK X3 Res controlled by Aquaero 6
If you have time, read the [H] thread, it's quite amusing.
Yes, the one that everybody used when Windows 7 was released.
If your card got fried because the driver decided to up the voltages, you wouldn't be happy. Doesn't matter if it's today or 4 months ago.
And no, both companies suck with their drivers. Maybe you missed my other post in this very thread.
You have a point there, but releasing a driver with the wrong numbering? Doesn't take a genius to check stuff like that.
Last edited by Piotrsama; 01-28-2010 at 10:19 AM.
No, takes a "human" and people are still people no matter where you put them. I know they have a female in some banner with a robot face, but they're not robots you know, they're humans and human make mistakes.
Ummm... you do realize they have to submit the drivers in the beginning of the month to make sure they are certified at the end, right?
You don't think GF100 is going to have driver problems, a new architecture?
Originally Posted by motown_steve
Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.
Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.
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