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    hm, then I guess I'll want to buy another 2GB stick so I can have 2x2GB for 4 GB.

    The sticks should probably be similar right? The one I have is DDR2 1066 5-5-5-15, 2.1V. Any suggestions?

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    Get the same brand & same part number with the existing one.

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    darn...I think that would be expensive since it's corsair dominator. The only reason I got this stick is because i took a gamble on an eBay auction selling untested ram, and the stick happened to work.

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    I guess I'll buy ram when I can afford it (first week of february) if I can't use all the ram I have.

    Any recommendations? There's deals on 4GB of OCZ Reaper DDR2 1066 and 4GB Patriot Viper 1066 on newegg, but the rebates expire after Jan 31st, though I imagine they'll just get renewed, or more rebates will just show up.

    If I want another 2GB stick to match the one I have, should I get this?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146784

    DDR2 1066, 2.1v, 5-5-5-15...it's rather expensive though

    UPDATE: ARGGHHH!!! My dorm's mail sorting is garbage so even though the cpu and mobo and all were delivered today, I can't pick it up because they haven't logged and sorted all the received mail...I was able to SEE my box in the mail room and they wouldn't give it to me
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    FINALLY was able to pick up my parts. Put the system together in less than 2 hours, tried powering it up and it all looks good!

    Now I'm trying to install windows 7...which is an awfully slow process. We'll see about the unlock and oc afterwards.

    I stuck in all the ram for now. If I have problems with the OC, then I'll pull out the 667 and buy a 4GB pack when I get some more money.

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    I set ACC to auto and to all cores, and CPUz is still saying only 2 cores and no L3. It still boots and all though

    CACVC AC 0932FPCW

    Any advice?

    UPDATE: apparently I disabled ACC on accident, not setting it to all cores (though I had tested it on auto)...argh still not working

    UPDATE2: WOOHOO!! Boots labeled Phenom FX-5000 quad core! Hadn't been setting EC to hybrid firmware. YAY!
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    I'm hitting a wall with my fsb at 270.

    I set the ram multiplier to 2.00x, and all voltages are at default, and HT link width and frequency are on auto.

    If I raise fsb to 275, it won't post. I've tried raising the ram voltage to 2.00V from 1.80V, but it's not doing any good.

    I know you mentioned dropping the HT, but I'm not sure what the setting for that is. There's a setting for HT link width and HT link frequency, but I'm not sure what that is exactly. I tried setting HT link width to 8.0 and HT link frequency to 800 mhz and 1ghz but it didn't help.

    Any advice?

    UPDATE: It appears to purely be a ram issue. I took out the 2 sticks of ddr2 667, and I was able to get it to boot at 3.3ghz, but I don't know how stable it is yet. I guess I'll have to invest in some faster ram.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quadomatic View Post
    I'm hitting a wall with my fsb at 270.

    I set the ram multiplier to 2.00x, and all voltages are at default, and HT link width and frequency are on auto.

    If I raise fsb to 275, it won't post. I've tried raising the ram voltage to 2.00V from 1.80V, but it's not doing any good.

    I know you mentioned dropping the HT, but I'm not sure what the setting for that is. There's a setting for HT link width and HT link frequency, but I'm not sure what that is exactly. I tried setting HT link width to 8.0 and HT link frequency to 800 mhz and 1ghz but it didn't help.

    Any advice?

    UPDATE: It appears to purely be a ram issue. I took out the 2 sticks of ddr2 667, and I was able to get it to boot at 3.3ghz, but I don't know how stable it is yet. I guess I'll have to invest in some faster ram.
    It seems Athlon x2 5000 have IMC doesn't like 4 x DIMM .......
    Try overclock it with 2 x DIMM , lower the ram multipler to 533 may help

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    Quote Originally Posted by imamage View Post
    It seems Athlon x2 5000 have IMC doesn't like 4 x DIMM .......
    Try overclock it with 2 x DIMM , lower the ram multipler to 533 may help
    I have 3 x DIMM. When I tested it and it posted it was with 1 x DIMM.

    I ended up having to drop fsb to 260 (with the 3x dimm, i'm leaving it like that because I need 3 GB of ram) since it wasn't stable. Now, at fsb 260, it's pretty stable - ran Prime95 blend for 13 hours and it was all good.

    Once I get 2 sticks of 1066 ddr2, i'll replace my ram and oc more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quadomatic View Post
    I'm hitting a wall with my fsb at 270.

    I set the ram multiplier to 2.00x, and all voltages are at default, and HT link width and frequency are on auto.

    If I raise fsb to 275, it won't post. I've tried raising the ram voltage to 2.00V from 1.80V, but it's not doing any good.

    I know you mentioned dropping the HT, but I'm not sure what the setting for that is. There's a setting for HT link width and HT link frequency, but I'm not sure what that is exactly. I tried setting HT link width to 8.0 and HT link frequency to 800 mhz and 1ghz but it didn't help.

    Any advice?

    UPDATE: It appears to purely be a ram issue. I took out the 2 sticks of ddr2 667, and I was able to get it to boot at 3.3ghz, but I don't know how stable it is yet. I guess I'll have to invest in some faster ram.
    I have 2 of these chips on the same type mobo and I hit a wall @ 3.26Ghz. Below that and it's completely stable running VM's for F@H. These cpu's are pegged @ 100% 24/7. They make great little quad core workhorses. SuperBiiz now has them for $49.99 w/free shipping. I think I will pick up another.

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    has anyone tried this cpu with a motherboard supporting DDR3 ram, also is there a great differences between DDR2 and DDR3.

    I have this cpu X2 5000 on it's own (unlockable to quad core and L3 cache), is it worth buying a new setup on this, or go for a new system that support DDR3 ram with cpu like amd am3 545 or 555 which are also unlockable with quad core and L3 cache memory.

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    It shouldn't support DDR3 since it's a Deneb with only a DDR2 controller (similar to a Phenom 920 if you'd like) on top of that, the die is AM2+.

    Well.. DDR2 vs DDR3 wise... you have more bandwidth (moar megahertz!) and thus more performance. idk.. 30% increase in performance ? ..the only disadvantage to buying a new system based on DDR3 is that it costs more. If money isn't a problem then you should go for it since the Phenom 5xx series is far more overclockable (and far more better 2.2Ghz vs 3Ghz stock) compared to this FX5000.

    P.S.: If you decide to go for it what will you do with that unlockable Deneb, could you trade ? ..i still don't know if mine will unlock (couldn't find anyone with a 790).
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    Quote Originally Posted by kms108 View Post
    has anyone tried this cpu with a motherboard supporting DDR3 ram, also is there a great differences between DDR2 and DDR3.

    I have this cpu X2 5000 on it's own (unlockable to quad core and L3 cache), is it worth buying a new setup on this, or go for a new system that support DDR3 ram with cpu like amd am3 545 or 555 which are also unlockable with quad core and L3 cache memory.
    I agree with Alexs2tank. If the 100.00 price difference between the platforms is not an issue, you will get higher clocks/more performance out of the PII x2 555 with DDR3. The only niche this CPU has right now is that you can unlock it to a quad with modest clocks for only $50.00.

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    thanks for the info, I have decided to stick with the 5000+, it only cost me about USD 45, whiles the 555 is USD 105.

    I have a problem, using cpuz it shows my cpu runs at 800GHZ-1700GHZ (mostly around 840GHZ) multipler x4, altough I did set it at 12.5x, what settings on the MB bios do i need to do for it to reach at least 2200GHZ, my MB is a magic-pro MP-AKGX-M Ultra, 790GX/SB750 with support of both DDR2 and DDR3, i'm using 2x 512MB DDR2 533, will buy later on 2x 2GB DDR2 1066.


    update

    I have finally got it to 2200GHZ, but it's still going up and down, is there a function to disable the auto core speed, setting the multipler will not work.
    kms
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    do you guys know where to pick up one of these in u.s. or online? thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wuttz View Post
    do you guys know where to pick up one of these in u.s. or online? thanks.


    http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=...2-2GHz-AM2-OEM

    The key to identifying the right 5000+ for unlocking is to confirm it is 45nm and AM2+.

    Quote Originally Posted by kms108 View Post
    thanks for the info, I have decided to stick with the 5000+, it only cost me about USD 45, whiles the 555 is USD 105.

    I have a problem, using cpuz it shows my cpu runs at 800GHZ-1700GHZ (mostly around 840GHZ) multipler x4, altough I did set it at 12.5x, what settings on the MB bios do i need to do for it to reach at least 2200GHZ, my MB is a magic-pro MP-AKGX-M Ultra, 790GX/SB750 with support of both DDR2 and DDR3, i'm using 2x 512MB DDR2 533, will buy later on 2x 2GB DDR2 1066.


    update

    I have finally got it to 2200GHZ, but it's still going up and down, is there a function to disable the auto core speed, setting the multipler will not work.
    kms
    Disable "Cool & Quiet" in Bios.
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    Is it possible that AMD have made these to be optimized for old AM2 boards? They're marked as EOL now at AMD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Nasty View Post
    http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=...2-2GHz-AM2-OEM

    The key to identifying the right 5000+ for unlocking is to confirm it is 45nm and AM2+.


    Disable "Cool & Quiet" in Bios.
    I picked up 2 from Ewiz and only one unlocked. Just a warning so its not a sure thing.
    budzos

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    Quote Originally Posted by budzos View Post
    I picked up 2 from Ewiz and only one unlocked. Just a warning so its not a sure thing.
    budzos
    thanks for the heads up budzos, do you have the batch numbers?
    around 95+ people in this thread have had success with the batches on the list:

    tpc

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    I don't have the batch # from the one that unlocked since its installed but
    the numbers on the one that did not unlock are 0938APMW.
    budzos

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    Any ideas on Foxconn mobos? I came across a deal for a $46 Foxconn A76ML-K, and I was curious if it would support unlocking cores or not. I tried emailing Foxconn directly to ask if their BIOSes support ACC, but I still haven't heard back from them for some time now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swoody View Post
    Any ideas on Foxconn mobos? I came across a deal for a $46 Foxconn A76ML-K, and I was curious if it would support unlocking cores or not. I tried emailing Foxconn directly to ask if their BIOSes support ACC, but I still haven't heard back from them for some time now.
    the SB710 chipset supports ACC.

    Chipset: AMD 760G & SB710
    however, i could not open the BIOS manual(corrupt file) just to make sure the ACC option is indeed in the BIOS.

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    here's my take on the X2 5000, just got 12 boxes 7 can unlock & 5 don't, even some have the SAme batch/ product code one would unlock & one won't so i guess it's really goes down to luck then lol. used a J&W790GX & a Biostar 785GE to test the 12 CPU's & both have the same result on these CACVC AC 0935/ 0936 types.





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    Quote Originally Posted by duron View Post
    i still have banhammer blunt force trauma!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wuttz View Post
    i still have banhammer blunt force trauma!
    oh is that so lol

    anyways the guys are talking about on what you have been doing lately, hope we hear from you

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