The GT300/Fermi Thread

[saaya]

if nvidia is smart (they probably are) they put some spares on their gpu which is basically extra pieces of hardware that can replace pieces where defects are in the silicon. for example you could imagine having a 5th GPC cluster that can replace one with defects. if you do the proper math you can compute spare designs that are statistically going to increase your per-die yield even though such measures increase the die area

well its not only about being smart... do you really think they put backup logic on fermi? its so huge that some of the blocks of a fully fledged GF100 probably ARE seen by nvidia as backup units... its just that nvidia can enabled all of them on some few very good cores, while ati has backup logic that can only be enabled if something is broken... know what i mean?

Worst NDA ever if you ask me!!!

hahah definately

Nope. They were showing a car racing game (can't remember which one) on three 24" Acer 120Hz monitors.

mhhhh in 3d? did you see it with glasses? what was your impression? i saw this at the display show here in taiwan and thought the bezel was terrible in 3d, cause it cuts the 3d objects in 2 pieces in a really weird way...

Just because the heatsink and PCB isn't finalized doesn't mean the chips can't be produced.

i didnt say the chips cant be produced... i just find it odd that the ref pcb for gt300 isnt finished yet... cause nvidia previously said they have the cards already and just wait for the chips... or am i mixing something up?

As for "mass production", if you ask five people at NVIDIA about actual production, two will say it is in mass production, two will say it isn't and the final person will just shrug their shoulders.

hehhehe it all depends on how you define mass production i guess

No, HawX was a simple slide which was supposed to illustrate how the new ROP layout and design decreases overhead when using higher instances of AA.

do you know if that was actual game perf then or just rop perf meassured somehow?

This is GeForce 5800 2.0 if you ask me.

naaahhh come on, the 5800 was a nightmare... it was slower in some games than its predecessor FFS! really cant compare that... and back then gpu power really mattered, nowadays you can play at max details even with mainstream cards

You need to pay attention...
They left A.I. ( Artificial Intelligence ) enabled, thus the benchmark becomes CPU limited and differences between differently clocked or even maker CPUs arise.
Considering that in a sum of games the 5870 needs an i7 clocked at 3.7GHz to be CPU-limit-free, and there you have it.

hmmmm what exactly does ai enabled do? does it reduce iq?

I know I'm going to have a hell of a time if what I saw and my other info is wrong, but here it comes:
The GTX 380 will be nearing the 5970 in most games, and will have a significant advantage over the 5870.
Regarding the price... well, if you're a realist and live under no illusions, then it's easy to say that it will be priced similarly to the 5970, normally 50 bucks lower or so.

well that perfectly matches the FC2 results...