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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    Yes but it was the standard Ranch Small test in the Far Cry 2 benchmark. In addition, the program itself wasn't running in the background in any way. The booted the benchmark, changed the settings in front of our eyes and then ran it. Simple as that and like anyone else would do. The only difference is that none of us were holding the mouse.

    As for the 2560 benchmark, I can't say who ran it if you catch my drift...

    Me, I replicated their test system and popped up the HD5870 result.
    So you have no idea if the bench program has been messed with. I fell better if a independent reviewer could install the OS and bench software then them just handing a system and say just run the bench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnipingWaste View Post
    So you have no idea if the bench program has been messed with. I fell better if a independent reviewer could install the OS and bench software then them just handing a system and say just run the bench.
    /tinfoilhat

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    Yes but it was the standard Ranch Small test in the Far Cry 2 benchmark. In addition, the program itself wasn't running in the background in any way.

    They booted the benchmark, changed the settings in front of our eyes and then ran it. Simple as that and like anyone else would do. The only difference is that none of us was holding the mouse. Basically, it doesn't make one lick of difference whether it was an NVIDIA system or not; they stated the specs, ran the same tests 99% of the other review sites usually do and showed results.


    Me, I replicated their test system as outlined by NVIDIA and popped up the HD5870 result. They weren't BSing either since I was able to replicate their GTX 285 results down to a few percentage points.
    Thanks

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    simulated performance on the 5870 in fc2? lulz. Of course they simulate way too low.

    I just ran these and 71.66 fps on stock 5870. Overclocked to 1000/1300 5870 and resulted 79.54 fps. Dual 5870's @ stock resulted in 120.35 fps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnipingWaste View Post
    So you have no idea if the bench program has been messed with. I fell better if a independent reviewer could install the OS and bench software then them just handing a system and say just run the bench.
    As I mentioned in the article, NVIDIA sent me their EXACT system specs when I tried to call them on using a hand picked system. I went out and bought an i7 960 and replicated their system. My GTX 285 results were within a mere few percentage points of theirs.

    Trust me, nothing was messed with the benchmark on my system and judging from my results, nothing was "optimized" on theirs either.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCspecV81 View Post
    simulated performance on the 5870 in fc2? lulz. Of course they simulate way too low.

    I just ran these and 71.66 fps on stock 5870. Overclocked to 1000/1300 5870 and resulted 79.54 fps. Dual 5870's @ stock resulted in 120.35 fps.
    It was me that simulated the HD 5870 after simulating the GTX 285 results they gave out. Trust me, unless they used a totally different test system for the GTX 285 and GF100, the results are pretty accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCspecV81 View Post
    simulated performance on the 5870 in fc2? lulz. Of course they simulate way too low.

    I just ran these and 71.66 fps on stock 5870. Overclocked to 1000/1300 5870 and resulted 79.54 fps. Dual 5870's @ stock resulted in 120.35 fps.
    Meanin you ran on DX9. In DX10, I got nearly exactly the same result using a stock 5870.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    It was me that simulated the HD 5870 after simulating the GTX 285 results they gave out. Trust me, unless they used a totally different test system for the GTX 285 and GF100, the results are pretty accurate.
    you simulated. enough said, they are inaccurate. I'm even running a phenom II to boot.

    Quote Originally Posted by annihilat0r View Post
    Meanin you ran on DX9. In DX10, I got nearly exactly the same result using a stock 5870.
    No it was dx10. I would be more than happy to post the graph.

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    better 8AA scaling, cool...
    and supposedly better AA quality as well... nice!
    very nice perf scaling compared to a 285... but without knowing what res this was its not that useful...

    lol from the pcp article:
    Remember how impressed we all were when Doom 3 came out? How we now had human looking faces?
    errr nOooOoO? doom3 faces sucked...

    the GF100 based high end card will be 15% to 20% faster overall than the HD 5870.
    soooo wait... i thought the 360 was supposed to be 20% faster than the 5870...
    so fermi is as fast as a 1ghz 5870? :/


    fermi is 6x faster in an nvidia custom benchmark compared to a 5870...now thats a useful perf indication! NOT! :P


    250% the logic but only 50% perf boost? or is this some synthetic texturing benchmark? even if its only texturing perf, 50% isnt really a lot... shouldnt a 295 beat fermi in texturing perf then?

    meh, this is all?
    no perf numbers, no price, no detailed availability/launch date?
    nothing about GF104? no pictures of the card? no pictures of the gpu die? no infos about ocing, temperatures in idle and load? :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCspecV81 View Post
    No it was dx10. I would be more than happy to post the graph.
    then it has got something to do with you running on Phenom. AT was telling that Nvidia + Phenom could perform better than Nvidia + Intel.
    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NCspecV81 View Post
    you simulated. enough said, they are inaccurate. I'm even running a phenom II to boot.



    No it was dx10. I would be more than happy to post the graph.
    Phenom. 'Nuff said. Different mobo, processor architecture, PCI-E lane configuration from the chipset, not DDR3 tri channel....need I go on?

    Honestly, these results are easily replicated with the proper system (960 or i7 920 overclocked to a 960's Turbo Mode speed) and running the same benchmark with 9.12 or 9.11 drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCspecV81 View Post
    you simulated. enough said, they are inaccurate. I'm even running a phenom II to boot.



    No it was dx10. I would be more than happy to post the graph.
    I've never been able to achieve the kind of performance you're claiming... and I'm running an i7 920 @ 3.72g, an Indilinx Barefoot 256GB SSD with Samsung NAND, 6GB DDR3 @ 1560, with a Radeon 5870 (stock).

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    Don't tell me when it comes to FarCry2, Intel sucks compared to AMD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annihilat0r View Post
    then it has got something to do with you running on Phenom. AT was telling that Nvidia + Phenom could perform better than Nvidia + Intel.
    Yea Far Cry 2 doesn't seem to give Core i7 much love, or it gives extra love to Phenom II.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    As I mentioned in the article, NVIDIA sent me their EXACT system specs when I tried to call them on using a hand picked system. I went out and bought an i7 960 and replicated their system. My GTX 285 results were within a mere few percentage points of theirs.

    Trust me, nothing was messed with the benchmark on my system and judging from my results, nothing was "optimized" on theirs either.....
    cool, thx for spending so much time on this man! appreciated
    The cart you see below Unigine engine benchmark 60 seconds is taken from the walkway section of Heaven benchmark that has the most tessellation.
    so best case scenario in a tesselation benchmark, which to some degree already is a best case scenario, fermi is 50% faster than a 5870... hmmm so its slightly faster than a 5970 in heavy tesselation scenarios.

    NVIDIA showed off one more bit of information about DX11 performance which was from a Microsoft DX11 geometry shader toolkit. The results you see below were taken during the rendering of two separate which ask the GPU to process up to six cubemap faces in one pass.
    typo, theres a word missing after seperate
    so was this a microsoft dx11 benchmark? or is it an nvidia benchmark based on microsofts toolkit?

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    looks like I expected it to
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    sorry turned down my OC to test nearly the same frequency. If you are trying to tell me a phenom performs much better in fc2 than intel...give me a break. There's been plenty of reviews that state otherwise.


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    great article. Best article out there, starting to like your site over AT. keep up the great work.

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    Image thumbnail, please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    typo, theres a word missing after seperate
    so was this a microsoft dx11 benchmark? or is it an nvidia benchmark based on microsofts toolkit?
    Sorry. A lot of stuff to type.

    The benchmark is built into MS's DX11 toolkit for testing of geometry shader code. It is an industry standard with developers as far as I know. I have asked for a bit more information about it but my developer contacts don't think it is publicly available.

    Stay tuned for more on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kgk View Post
    Ever since I first discovered your site last year, it's really started to grow on me. Solid reviews and well written articles.

    Keep it up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by annihilat0r View Post
    then it has got something to do with you running on Phenom. AT was telling that Nvidia + Phenom could perform better than Nvidia + Intel.
    Um.....what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carfax View Post
    Um.....what?
    I don't know which article, but it was there.
    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carfax View Post
    Um.....what?
    that's what I'm saying. The results posted for the 5870 are "simulated" and a mild guess at best and are "based off the performance obtained with the gtx285". Great. Just what we need floating around, especially for cards already out on the market!

    overclocked results lol

    pardon me I don't know how to put in thumbnail tags. Let me know and I will.


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    God, why on Earth do you continue posting overclocked results while it has absolutely no relevance?

    Here is something from AT, with a 3.33GHz i7:

    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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