New EK-Supreme HF (High Flow) CPU Block

[Alexandr0s]

No that's a manufacturing error. I believe all blocks have that. It doesn't decrease performance . And why would you want to change a block that's already the best one out there? You'll only be downgrading.

[sprayingmango]

Has "downgrading" been proven in a direct head-to-head test? From what I've seen, the EK performs as good as the XT and maintains higher flow rates.

[Humminn55]

The jet plates allow for more or less water to pass through the block. More flow means a less restrictive block, but some performance loss. Less flow means a restrictive block, but better performance.
Although I doubt the difference between 2 plates will be more than 1-2C.

They're called impingement jets. They work something similar to what you see with an open hose vs. a hose with a sprayer on it. The open hose may flow more water but at a lower "pressure" while the sprayer, while somewhat reducing flow, increases the pressure of the water striking the block.

And it's creating turbulence in the block. Low turbulence equals lower performance, higher turbulence equals better performance......more water has the chance to actually touch the block's surface so there may be the chance of enhanced heat exchange with increased turbulence inside the block.

[rge]

Has "downgrading" been proven in a direct head-to-head test? From what I've seen, the EK performs as good as the XT and maintains higher flow rates.

yeah, the only test I saw that scamps referenced earlier in this thread showed them performing same temp wise, ie within 0.2C or within margin of error (one block tested higher on one setting, other on other, basically blocks are so close margin of error exceeds difference).

Though Alexandr0s may have seen some other testing and perhaps would like to share?

And for those saying data does not make sense because at 3.2 one was .2C better, and at 3.6 other was .2C, along with couple other tests switching places with 0.2 margins... actually just looks like honest data to me coupled with margin of error of few tenths degree C (which is true for anyones testing) exceeds difference in 2 blocks in their tests.

[kpablo]

Any plan on selling this block nickel plated version, Eddy?

[scamps]

Any plan on selling this block nickel plated version, Eddy?

on it´s way:
http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/index.p...t01returnid=17

[kpablo]

on it´s way:
http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/index.p...t01returnid=17

Sweet~!

[sprayingmango]

yeah, the only test I saw that scamps referenced earlier in this thread showed them performing same temp wise, ie within 0.2C or within margin of error (one block tested higher on one setting, other on other, basically blocks are so close margin of error exceeds difference).

Though Alexandr0s may have seen some other testing and perhaps would like to share?

And for those saying data does not make sense because at 3.2 one was .2C better, and at 3.6 other was .2C, along with couple other tests switching places with 0.2 margins... actually just looks like honest data to me coupled with margin of error of few tenths degree C (which is true for anyones testing) exceeds difference in 2 blocks in their tests.

Thanks for the great reply. I was not trying to be a a jerk, just looking for honest data.

[skinnee]

yeah, the only test I saw that scamps referenced earlier in this thread showed them performing same temp wise, ie within 0.2C or within margin of error (one block tested higher on one setting, other on other, basically blocks are so close margin of error exceeds difference).

Though Alexandr0s may have seen some other testing and perhaps would like to share?

And for those saying data does not make sense because at 3.2 one was .2C better, and at 3.6 other was .2C, along with couple other tests switching places with 0.2 margins... actually just looks like honest data to me coupled with margin of error of few tenths degree C (which is true for anyones testing) exceeds difference in 2 blocks in their tests.

But the test bed determines margin of error, always something to remember.

We should be seeing more test data sometime in the near future.

BTW, "near future" is in skinnee labs time not forum time.

[Elpy]

Just sold my Heatkiller 3.0 to buy this block . Not for the performance, but just for the fact that its EK and it looks cool.

[Alexandr0s]

What I was trying to say: He has a block that cost about 80$. From what I've seen was that the EK performs very similar to the XT. I was wondering why he wanted to change to another block, while he already has an amazing block. It's not like now that EK released a new block the XT isn't interesting anymore. It's still an extremely well performing CPU block.

[warriorpoet]

But the test bed determines margin of error, always something to remember.

We should be seeing more test data sometime in the near future.

BTW, "near future" is in skinnee labs time not forum time.

tomorrow?



forum time: tomorrow= within 2 hours (it's always tomorrow somewhere, right?)
skinnee time: tomorrow= within a couple days, weeks, months; meh, Imma gonna go eat mo pie

[BulldogPO]

Like to see comparision against Apogee GTZ.

[Hondacity]

the gtz is really good based from gabe's conclusion

OBSERVATIONS AND CONCLUSIONS

Given the precision of the CPU DTS (+/- 1ºC) these test results are accurate at +/- 1ºC. We can observe that GTZ and HK3.0 are tied, and that 350AC is visibly trailing behind

http://www.xtremesystems.org/FORUMS/...d.php?t=226455

[NaeKuh]

the gtz is really good based from gabe's conclusion



http://www.xtremesystems.org/FORUMS/...d.php?t=226455

yeah but gabes results dont mirrors vapors.

[Taskforce]

Can anyone confirm a copper version of the EK-Supreme HF, it seems recently EK has lost it's copper love, just an FYI Mr. Eddy there are people out there who prefer pure copper to nickle.

[Kibbler]

Can anyone confirm a copper version of the EK-Supreme HF, it seems recently EK has lost it's copper love, just an FYI Mr. Eddy there are people out there who prefer pure copper to nickle.

Con-Firmed. Don't be afraid to search for things yourself once in a while.

I just ordered the black acetal/nickel version. Still waiting on the white acetal top, tho.

[Elpy]

What exactly is the difference between copper and nickel anyway? I mean doesnt copper have better heat conductivity? So why put nickel there

[Eddy_EK]

A full copper block is in development. It will have little diferent looks than plexi and acetal...
Due to lack of material needed for copper top (the specific dimensions and delivery time) the block will not be ready till end of February. But hoping to make it ASAP.

[woffen]

What exactly is the difference between copper and nickel anyway? I mean doesnt copper have better heat conductivity? So why put nickel there

The blocks are only nickeplated, the nickel is so thin it doesn't matter.

[Elpy]

But still what's the difference? Only thing I can think about is that it looks cooler... but it's not like you will see it anyway after you mount it

[Jokester_wild]

But still what's the difference? Only thing I can think about is that it looks cooler... but it's not like you will see it anyway after you mount it

yes its all about looks. Yes it looks hot. I have a window, you should install one

[Alexandr0s]

But still what's the difference? Only thing I can think about is that it looks cooler... but it's not like you will see it anyway after you mount it

Aren't most the things you do with watercooling mostly for the looks?

It's just a cool extra that it allows for easy overclocking .

[warriorpoet]

Aren't most the things you do with watercooling mostly for the looks?

It's just a cool extra that it allows for easy overclocking .

Wow. No.

I started water cooling for two reasons:
1. I wanted the "holy grail" of performance and quiet. Got it too.

2. I'm an incessant fiddler

[the_dope_chaud]

Wow. No.

I started water cooling for two reasons:
1. I wanted the "holy grail" of performance and quiet. Got it too.

2. I'm an incessant fiddler

A bit OT, but I agree with above, and

3. I love the look that people give you when you say you have water in your computer.... And my wife cannot understand why it takes longer to put together the cooling together than the actual computer....


Eddy, love the new block, and love all the options, cannot wait to see a white one up close.