X48 Rampage Formula Preview.

[leo27]

@A-Grey
I'll give the 333 strap a try and see how it goes

If thoses voltages turn out to be true then 3.5ghz at 500FSB might be in the future as i have a spot cool as close to the NB as a 280GTX in the upper PCIE slot allows

EDIT:Changing the strap to 333 didn't really change the bandwidth however the latency is consistantly 0.1-0.3ns lower so i'll keep it at the 333Mhz strap. For those interested the following table from anandtech's rampage formula review shows why.



As you can see at DDR 800Mhz with the 400 FSB strap the latency is 30ns
At DDR 800Mhz at the 333Mhz strap the latency is 25.0ns

[Alien Grey]

I've got a question for you guys.


Who still wants to wait for ASUS to release a BIOS that would make it possible to run the ASUS Rampage board at 500MHz or DDR 1200MHz+ stable ?

Or don't you believe it anymore that ASUS is going to release a new BIOS that would make that possible and do you think it's time to move on and invest a small amount of money in a new board and different brand ?


The reason I'm asking this is because there's a board that doesn't cost you an arm and a leg and that makes it possible to run at FSB 500MHz stable and comes with a BIOS that we can only dream about right now. The only thing you would need is new mosfet coolers if you don't want to use the stock heatpipe cooling.


Let me know what you think about that. I'm prepared to dump the board and to move on if that is what you guys think should be done.

[SoLoR]

Or don't you believe it anymore that ASUS is going to release a new BIOS that would make that possible and do you think it's time to move on and invest a small amount of money in a new board and different brand ?

this, however i wont buy new board right now, ill just keep what i have for now. However as soon as some acceptable priced (~450-500euros) gulftown cpus will get out, im moving on. Even tho i was big fan of asus and i never actualy thinking about some other company (using asus mobos for ~10 years), i most likely will try some other manufacture for my next build.

[Alien Grey]

this, however i wont buy new board right now, ill just keep what i have for now. However as soon as some acceptable priced (~450-500euros) gulftown cpus will get out, im moving on. Even tho i was big fan of asus and i never actualy thinking about some other company (using asus mobos for ~10 years), i most likely will try some other manufacture for my next build.

What are we going to do with more than 4 cores ?


Most applications can't work with 4 cores. Application that can are mostlikely going the GPGPU way.


Anyway I was looking at the DFI Lanparty DK P45 T2RS Plus. I can buy this one for 128 Euro and I need 2 Thermalright HR-09 mosfet coolers type 3, a Thermalright HR-09U and a Thermalright HR-09S.

[SoLoR]

Anyway I was looking at the DFI Lanparty DK P45 T2RS Plus. I can buy this one for 128 Euro and I need 2 Thermalright HR-09 mosfet coolers type 3, a Thermalright HR-09U and a Thermalright HR-09S.

Yes i think Gigabyte/DFI is the way to go. Specialy Gigabyte gives impression that they are updating their bioses for a long time. Not that i follow much this but http://station-drivers.com/, if you check you will see asrock/gigabyte/msi still updating bioses for old mobos, while asus only does for p55/x48 chipset mostly. And yes i know not all manufactures are there and that probably doesnt have each and every update, but it gives general idea. Also i woulnt really argue/be disapointed if i would buy some budget mobo and they would slow down support after a year. But since you buy "top of the line" mobo, just because you EXPECT everything will work as it should and requests for improvements/fixes wont get on fall on deaf ears.

[Alien Grey]

Yes i think Gigabyte/DFI is the way to go. Specialy Gigabyte gives impression that they are updating their bioses for a long time. Not that i follow much this but http://station-drivers.com/, if you check you will see asrock/gigabyte/msi still updating bioses for old mobos, while asus only does for p55/x48 chipset mostly. And yes i know not all manufactures are there and that probably doesnt have each and every update, but it gives general idea. Also i woulnt really argue/be disapointed if i would buy some budget mobo and they would slow down support after a year. But since you buy "top of the line" mobo, just because you EXPECT everything will work as it should and requests for improvements/fixes wont get on fall on deaf ears.

The way I see it is that BIOS 0902 should have been the first release BIOS. It's the only BIOS that allows you to use the lowest tRD for the memory speed that you're using.

I don't have a problem that they try to squeeze as much performance as they can on stock speeds but there should be a way to use the highest possible FSB too.

We can trial and error as much as we want we will never see a really stable high FSB overclock on our board if ASUS doesn't take the time to fix it in the BIOS. Since they don't do BIOS updates for overclocking the chances that they are going to release a new BIOS to fix the problem are almost zero.


We don't have to start ing that it's a problem with the ASUS Tech Support because it isn't. It's a problem with their R & D team. I've send a mail to one of their employees to ask him what he thinks of the feedback that we gave him but it's obviously to much asked to get a reply back so we would know if something can be done to try to fix it or if it's a limitation by the board so we don't have to bother them anymore.

[Fritz_the_germ]

What are we going to do with more than 4 cores ?


Most applications can't work with 4 cores. Application that can are mostlikely going the GPGPU way.


Anyway I was looking at the DFI Lanparty DK P45 T2RS Plus. I can buy this one for 128 Euro and I need 2 Thermalright HR-09 mosfet coolers type 3, a Thermalright HR-09U and a Thermalright HR-09S.

Yo Alien Grey,
the DFI LanParty DK P45 RS Plus is the best choise you and all the other overclockers can make.
On the german market is a DK P45 T2RS Plus for 99 € available
My son liked the old ASUS board to start with but now he kind of bored too.
DFI gets you many BIOS pages you have to get your head around first. But if you are into the BIOS the board is doing what you want to do

[Alien Grey]

Yo Alien Grey,
the DFI LanParty DK P45 RS Plus is the best choise you and all the other overclockers can make.
On the german market is a DK P45 T2RS Plus for 99 € available
My son liked the old ASUS board to start with but now he kind of bored too.
DFI gets you many BIOS pages you have to get your head around first. But if you are into the BIOS the board is doing what you want to do

That's good news. Is there a BIOS option available like the Loadline Calibration on the Rampage Formula that's actually working?

Do you know anyone that could run a Q9650 stable at 4.5GHz on that board?


I think I'm going to replace my ASUS Rampage Formula with a DFI Lanparty DK P45 T2RS Plus when I don't see any improvements in the next ASUS Rampage Formula BIOS.

[Fritz_the_germ]

That's good news. Is there a BIOS option available like the Loadline Calibration on the Rampage Formula that's actually working?

Do you know anyone that could run a Q9650 stable at 4.5GHz on that board?


I think I'm going to replace my ASUS Rampage Formula with a DFI Lanparty DK P45 T2RS Plus when I don't see any improvements in the next ASUS Rampage Formula BIOS.

Yes,
you can find the "Loadline Calibration" in the DFI DK P45 T2-RS Plus BIOS in the page "voltage setting page" namend "VCore Droop Control" enabled or disabled.
If I know anyone... Are you kidding?
I know many friends who got their Q9650@4500 MHz on a DFI DK P45 stable.

http://img10.abload.de/img/4500mhz_1...umtempcei2.jpg

http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community...d.php?t=649680

If the link does not work check this out:


Sell your ASUS and buy a DFI! You will never ever regret.

[Rafatk]

Well it is my first post here, but I have been following this thread long ago, before I got my RF.
Very nice mobo, features wise, enough for my OC, but I got stuck in a dilemma right now.
Where I live, I can`t find affordable Q9X50, which was the route I wanted to go, I say it is expensive because a Q9550 is more expensive than a i5 and close to i7 860, and the Q9650 is more expensive than the i7 860. And both i5 and i7 offer a way better performance and more OC head room than the Q9X50's + RF. (at least here where I live)
But going to i5 or i7 route will require changing mobo and memory, plus a new retention kit for socket 1156 for my HSF.
I think I should've got the extra 4 GB of ram + the Q9650 a few months ago before the i5 and i7 1156 launch. And try to OC the heck of the Q9650 with 8 GB.
But you got a good point A-Grey, what more than 4 cores for?! Maybe wait for Intel launch the controller for SATAIII and USB 3.0 and get the Q9650 even though it costs more than a i5 right now?!