57xx and 58xx locking problems with stripes

[Locke]

http://forums.amd.com/game/messagevi...hreadid=122932

This is happening with me, but seems widespread. I had no problems like this that I can remember in Vista 64.

I have the Gigabyte p55a ud4p board and an hd 5850. The problems may be more sever on Gigabyte bards and seem to be mainly rooted with Windows 7 2d-3d drivers.

Anyone have any ideas? The problems seem intermittent and not related to overclock setting on either the system or the video card side.

thanks!

[Zorlac]

I have had this issue since I got the 5870. I can barely stand to try and game on my new machine (using old machine mostly right now). Hoping that the new 9.12 Cats fix it in a few days. Starting to regret switching from nVIDIA (gasp!).

[Chickenfeed]

I've had this problem at stock clocks / voltage in Dead Space. However it seems to happen with unstable overclocks more than anything. Adding voltage ( afterburner ) usually fixed the issue. However the fact that this happens at stock clocks and voltage under some circumstances isn't cool. I will have to test if I can manage to get Dead Space to behave by uping the voltage past 1.162 at stock clocks. It is really sad if the vendors / ATI didn't ship their hardware with adequete voltage settings in the BIOS though...

I'll mention this happens for me with all drivers which support the HD5xxx series and on both Vista and Win7 x64 ( haven't tried x86 versions and I don't honestly care )

[OC Nub]

I am glad to see this thread, was wondering what the stripes were all about. Unstable oc seems to cause it for me as Chickenfeed said. I had thought it was more related to the 1156 socket's on die pci-e but hadn't tested on my nvidia card to see if it happened.

[FireDragon]

WOW i have this problem on my opty rig when pushing my oc hard like running OCCT, or even super superpi sometime if the clock is really unstable, i didn't know this was a known issue as i thought it was something else as it has happened with the card at stock also....could it maybe be an issue with the cpu hitting hicups and not feeding the card so it errors? (idk just a guess no idea really)

edit, this is all on win 7 x64 ultimate btw

Dragon

[Chickenfeed]

After reading through all of that thread and a few others, it appears AMD seem to want to believe it is due to a Windows 7 update. However there is still the fact that this happened for me ( as well as others ) in Vista as well ( still not sure on the whole x86/x64 thing but I'd wager it happens on both )

Some report it happening at stock and even on the desktop. I haven't had the driver stop responding at the desktop but I have seen 3d corruption on the desktop which doesn't go away until a restart. It started happening over a week ago for me ( the desktop display corruption that is ) I've had my memory either at stock or at 1250 since I've had the card so I've yet to rule out wether this new corruption is due toe a bad memory clock or not. However I will note, at stock memory I'd get the stripes with too agressive of core clock and / or lack of voltage.

At times, it is only a brief flash of the stripes and if I quickly alt + f4 or force open the task manager, I can sometimes save it from hard locking, which usually just results in a crashed exe and or a driver has stoped responding message ( most common occurance )

Its funny as I haven't seen this happen in all games (can run Crysis Warhead at 8xAA @ 1920x1200 looping for over an hour, no issues yet something like GTA:4 or Dead Space, crap their pants in mere minutes ) and the frequency is varried. If it wasn't for the fact I've had it happen at stock, I'd be blaming my occurance on overclocking but I have a feeling it isn't that simple of an issue...

[safan80]

I haven't has this issue and I'm running a gigabyte board.

edit: I do believe that it might your OC being unstable.

[Oese]

got it with unstable oc, that is if i go from 975/1275 at "low" volts (1,2v) to 1300/1300 unless i push the voltage to something slightly above 1.3^^

at 1.2v 975/1275 didnt happen so far (2 month stable now)

i can remember a similar issue using a x1900xt crossfire setup when pushing it too far, that was with vista i think and in crysis, so maybe its not entirely new? i think it was graphics-ram related at that time... i think this now too cause if i use 1000/1275 it will happen too, same with 975/1300. Only if i use 975/1275 it is stable.

So i think it maybe the memory controller? Maybe error correction errors out if gpu is stressed too much?

Just a thought...

[HeXploiT]

I had this same problem with my XFX 5870 XXX edition card. When clocked down however it never did this. In my case it was clearly due to a card that could not handle the advertised clock. RMA'd the card. Hopefully its replacement will be better.

[s1nykuL]

I used to get a very similar if not the same problem (vertical dark stripes on a grey background, as shown in the images in that AMD forum link) on my X1900's in Xfire and my current HD3870 if they got too hot. May or may not be related, just thought I would mention it.

[zalbard]

Perhaps the new BIOS might help? No promises, though, is only supposed to fix some DP and Eyefinity issues.

[sukebe]

I get those stripes too (5870 + evga e760) but ONLY when overclocking the CPU heavily... it's pretty often when it crashes due to CPU instability... i actually thought of it as the replacement of the BSOD in win7 (lol) since when testing for max CPU clock i would always get either a hard lock or these vertical stripes (with vga@stock)... but i never get them under a stable cpu oc, even with 5870 @ 965/1250 1.25v (stable too).

So i really think this is purely cpu/mobo related, to me it's like the way these gfx cards react to system hangs/instabilities, but it's not caused by any gfx instability itself.

[Locke]

yeah its hard to tell. I seem to get them with either a GPU or CPU over clock. A higher GPU seems to exasperate the situation, but a CPU overclock will generate them as well. I can get a small fft stress to run for hours and hours with no problems, so it seems hard to explain. Also I'm on water and my house is usually running at about 66-68 degrees ambient and I'm on water so I'm very sure its not a heat thing. I'm trying a lesser overclock at 900 on the 5850, L4D2 seems to be the worst, I can usually play TF2 for hours w/o problem, though I did have a lock up today running 1020 w/ 1.3v and 1250 mhz ram.

I guess we can talk more tomorrow after the new catalyst drivers are out then we can try the new bios. I kinda think this happened a couple times on my older p35 board too playing cod5...

[ajaidev]

This is probably gonna sound very paranoid but what the heck..

I noticed that every one on AMD's forum that had such a problem was a nooob and generally had lower than 10 posts lol

Ya i know i am paranoid

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

I get the stripes and my 3 5770's. not overclocked at all.

[sukebe]

I get the stripes and my 3 5770's. not overclocked at all.

I wouldnt call an i7 @4ghz "not overclocked at all". I say people with this problem should try backing down their cpu oc or give it some more voltage and see if it still happens.

[Locke]

I wouldnt call an i7 @4ghz "not overclocked at all". I say people with this problem should try backing down their cpu oc or give it some more voltage and see if it still happens.

yeah im trying no CPU over clock now, and i get issues with overclocked GPU, so I'm dropping my GPU over clock to see if I can get some more stability.

It seems stable with no overclock with gpu or cpu.

[Andrea deluxe]

it's a ram problem.....

if i overclock my card to 1300mhz i have the same issues....


maybe its a simple defective vga....

in general, gddr5 is a more thight...... but really more....

[jaredpace]

I heard it's system ram timings, Vga ram clocks, or ati HD audio drivers that cause the crashes.

solutions are to relax system memory timings & clocks, decrease vga mem clocks, and uninstall/skip install of hd audio driver

[FireDragon]

I might b able to vouch for the system memory timing maybe having something to do with it as the first time i ever noticed it was messing around with timings in memory, BUT it will still do it with very relaxed timings (aka stock ram timings), i would never get it on the desktop unless i was using something like OCCT or prime 95, i would get it in games no matter what clocks even on the card, it just seems more or less random tho, like sometimes it will b hrs other times i will get 5 ina row within a few min of the game (as in restart comp, load the game play for a few min, then the lines, sometimes it was almost like pixels also kinda fuzzy not just lines), also for me it isnt the audio drivers as i never installed them

This is on Win 7 x64 ultimate, 9.11 drivers ; i tried the Hemlock drivers and got a small performance boost, but since then i haven't done anything for gaming or stressing as i set this opty rig to stock and changed to a 1950pro, so i have a reliable computer, but i have yet to get anything weird with the 1950 pro, this is just in prep for my new build i wanted the Lian-li case my opty was in, all flat black nom nom

Dragon

[X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE]

I wouldnt call an i7 @4ghz "not overclocked at all". I say people with this problem should try backing down their cpu oc or give it some more voltage and see if it still happens.

Even at cpu stock speed it happens. Has nothing to do with overclocking at all. I have reproduced the freeze many times at completely stock system.

[TAViX]

Yep, same problem with me. If I put more than 1300 Mhz for RAM, this thing happens.

Interesting enough, after I put some small radiators on the RAM from the back of the card those problems kind of stop...So maybe heat problems??

[FireDragon]

i dont think it is heat as i have a 120 mm fan blowing right across the top of the card, and it happens at stock also, i havnt seen this problem but ONCE on my AM3 system it was a "normal" thing with the 5770 and my opty rig tho.....

Dragon

[Splave]

Ive gotten this in win7 when I force unapproved overclocking in afterburner and up the voltage and clocks. (ie it runs 3d clocks all the time once you pass CCC limits)

I think it has something to do with win 7 or the card does not like 3d speeds while in 2d. I can easily replicate the issue.

[TheCarLessDriven]

So did the new drivers fix these widespread issues of locking up etc? Im about to buy a diamond 5770 from newegg, but im reading so much about all this crap, ALL OVER THE PLACE. Its either this or I have to turn to a nvidia gts 250, wich I really dont want to do I need to know today!