A Semi-accurate Look into Fermi

[flippin_waffles]

Judging by your post history I'm convinced that you are Charlie.

Hmm, I don't know Charlie, but he probably wouldn't exactly be thrilled to see this statement.

Anyway, if fermi doesn't have something similar to Eyefinity for gamers, in my opinion it's not something i'd even consider a worthwhile upgrade regardless of how 'fast' it may or may not be. Frame rates add nothing to an experience, at least for myself.

[dengyong]

Anyway, if fermi doesn't have something similar to Eyefinity for gamers, in my opinion it's not something i'd even consider a worthwhile upgrade regardless of how 'fast' it may or may not be. Frame rates add nothing to an experience, at least for myself.

So you wouldn't mind a steady 5fps ?

[flippin_waffles]

So you wouldn't mind a steady 5fps ?

really? what games do the current gen cards run at a steady 5 fps? i thought cards on the market are more than strong enough to run todays games at high quality settings and very playable frame rates. playable is playable IMO. higher fps doesn't make it 'more playable' as long as it's above at least 30 at least in my experience.

@ JohnZS Cuda and Physx don't add anything from what i've seen so far. physx is proprietary and a dead end, and for the few obscure effects that it adds seems to be more marketing than anything else. Cuda does nothing for me as an end user either. 3D vision might add to the immersion level and realism. too bad it doesn't increase the FOV, that would be a killer setup.

[dengyong]

really? what games do the current gen cards run at a steady 5 fps? i thought cards on the market are more than strong enough to run todays games at high quality settings and very playable frame rates. playable is playable IMO. higher fps doesn't make it 'more playable' as long as it's above at least 30 at least in my experience.

Just yankin ya chain... so frame rate doesn't matter to you, as long as it stays above 30fps.

[flippin_waffles]

Just yankin ya chain... so frame rate doesn't matter to you, as long as it stays above 30fps.

haha well sarcasm aside, I just figured that 30 fps was implied as it seems to be the standard for what is acceptable game play!

[STaRGaZeR]

haha well sarcasm aside, I just figured that 30 fps was implied as it seems to be the standard for what is acceptable game play!

30fps my ass.

[stangracin3]

i'd like to see someone play cod mw 2 at 30 fps, that game gets choppy at anything under 75

[Solus Corvus]

haha well sarcasm aside, I just figured that 30 fps was implied as it seems to be the standard for what is acceptable game play!

30FPS, or even 60fps? Unacceptable in any serious multiplayer game IMO.

[STaRGaZeR]

30FPS, or even 60fps? Unacceptable in any game.

Fixed.

[YukonTrooper]

haha well sarcasm aside, I just figured that 30 fps was implied as it seems to be the standard for what is acceptable game play!

I think you're right. I'm pretty sure I remember reading about the standard in the Old Testament.

That's exactly what I want. But I only have a mere Samsung 2233RZ... no >22" or OLED yet. I'm addicted to 120Hz.

I was thinking about trying a 120Hz monitor, but going from a 24" P-MVA to a 22" TN would probably be difficult.

[safan80]

I think you're right. I'm pretty sure I remember reading about the standard in the Old Testament.

I thought it was written on 3dfx's grave stone

[RPGWiZaRD]

I was thinking about trying a 120Hz monitor, but going from a 24" P-MVA to a 22" TN would probably be difficult.

Then I don't think you'll appriciate the crappy colors of Samsung 2233rz. I've tried both Samsung 2233rz and ViewSonic VX2268wm and despite the excessive backlight bleed on the ViewSonic I still decided to stick with that one cuz I couldn't stand the colors on Samsung 2233rz, extremely blue tint which you cannot completely remove even when set blue to "0" and also the colors are slightly saturated, but at least the contrast is very good, in fact a lot better than the ViewSonic, despite they are rated the same.

Among the current 22" LCDs: ViewSonic VX2268wm > Samsung 2233rz > ViewSonic VX2265wm. I suppose the VX2268wm is only available in europe tho.

Non-TN panel + LED + 120Hz would be nice but seems like it's more likely for a new tech to arrive before such LCD is available.

[JohnZS]

The UK has been getting a constant supply of cards, while that supply wasn't exactly huge, there was a supply. You seem to be implying no cards in the UK, which is false.

Here is the current availability at two large UK e-tailers. Scan.co.uk Radeon 5870...0 in stock
And at Overclockers UK we have 7 special edition Waterblock cards in stock which are expensive.

These cards only came into stock at Overclockers this week... everwhere else was showing as "Pre-Order". My guess is that cards were pre-ordered and then shipped until stocks ran dry.

flippin_waffles
Fermi will have 3D Stereo Vision oh and CUDA and Phyx

[LordEC911]

These cards only came into stock at Overclockers this week... everwhere else was showing as "Pre-Order". My guess is that cards were pre-ordered and then shipped until stocks ran dry.

flippin_waffles
Fermi will have 3D Stereo Vision oh and CUDA and Phyx

Yes AMD was getting weekly shipments of "thousands of units" how those are distributed worldwide, I don't know exact numbers, but I would agree with you that the supply those etailers get are still going out to past preorders.

[safan80]

Anyway, if fermi doesn't have something similar to Eyefinity for gamers, in my opinion it's not something i'd even consider a worthwhile upgrade regardless of how 'fast' it may or may not be. Frame rates add nothing to an experience, at least for myself.

Fermi does not need Eyefinity. If playing games with three monitors were to take off it would of done so already. Anyone remember Matrox? Fermi only needs to be able to able the fastest thing on the market at the time of release(including being able to beat a certain dual card). Like I've said I'll wait for a rehash before looking at Fermi. Fermi has given way to a lot of doubts about it and Nvidia. Fermi has already been a big disappointment for those that have been waiting. Three years and Nvidia still does not have a new arch.

[kadozer]

Fermi does not need Eyefinity. If playing games with three monitors were to take off it would of done so already. Anyone remember Matrox? Fermi only needs to be able to able the fastest thing on the market at the time of release(including being able to beat a certain dual card). Like I've said I'll wait for a rehash before looking at Fermi. Fermi has given way to a lot of doubts about it and Nvidia. Fermi has already been a big disappointment for those that have been waiting. Three years and Nvidia still does not have a new arch.

Matrox was severely limited. It was only last year it bumped up its resolution capability and even then still pales to eyeinfinity.

[Motiv]

Fermi does not need Eyefinity. If playing games with three monitors were to take off it would of done so already. Anyone remember Matrox? Fermi only needs to be able to able the fastest thing on the market at the time of release(including being able to beat a certain dual card). Like I've said I'll wait for a rehash before looking at Fermi. Fermi has given way to a lot of doubts about it and Nvidia. Fermi has already been a big disappointment for those that have been waiting. Three years and Nvidia still does not have a new arch.

DiCE are going to be using eye infinity in Bad Company 2 and probably MoH and BF3. this will put those without 3 monitors at a disadvantage in competitive matches.

So, what will be the outcome for the competitive gamer and more precisly, for graphics cards manufacturers who don't have multimonitor support?