X48 Rampage Formula Preview.

[Alien Grey]

The weirdest thing is that if I use higher Nb Voltage it doesn't make it more stable. It just gets worse and fails a lot quicker in MemTest For Windows.

This is with CPU Clock Skew Delay 200ps and NB Clock Skew Delay 100ps but also with CPU Clock Skew Delay 100ps and NB Clock Skew Normal.


Does any know if we could use one of the Gigabyte boards BIOS? Maybe then we could finally see some real high FSB on our board.

[leo27]

I doubt a gigabyte BIOS would even flash, but if it did it would probably brick it since i assume they use different hardware. I think there is still some problems with BIOS 902 that is causing your instability, it's probably due to the bug relating to the NB timings and AI Clock twister or it could be from the minimal GTL reference adjustments. Just a thought but have you tried tweaking the NB gtl along with vtt when you increase vNB??

[SoLoR]

I doubt a gigabyte BIOS would even flash, but if it did it would probably brick it since i assume they use different hardware

you can force it to flash however was checking specification of GA-X48-DQ6, they are to different, altho maybe without functional lan/sound/ide controler it might be possible somehow altho i wouldnt play around... one major failure on this board is lack of dual bios... destroys all the fun. Altho fun facts, that Gigabyte board is using 1MB award bios thats basicaly full. This rampage formula is using AMI 2MB bios that have lots of space left.

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Bytes Free : D1648 = 857672 eh, so many things they could add... they could give us some AMI Aptio UEFI bios.... Also was checking this bios with AMIBCP the other day, if there are some hidden features... except localization (language) option there is none

[leo27]

@A-Grey
One other thing could you email your ASUS contact to try and get ASUS to add the updated JMicron IDE controller firmware into a new BIOS if they end up making one because reportadly it solves a lot of problems and speeds up the boot time as well if the IDE controller is enabled

[Alien Grey]

@SoLoR

This Gigabyte BIOS on my ASUS Rampage Formula is just a joke. I know it would brick my board. I just wanted to say that Gigabyte can make a BIOS that give you a stable high FSB overclock and ASUS can't or won't make one.


@leo27

I'll ask to update the ROM.


@greg.m

Try to get a stable running board with 9 X 470MHz and DDR 1253MHz with tRD6 and let us know how you are doing.



I'll prepare another mail to ASUS and this time it won't be just for my contact at ASUS Tech Support.



There's only one thing left to try for me and that is don't use the CPU and NB Clock Skew. I've got a feeling that this also has something to do with the failure on high FSB.

[leo27]

@A-Grey
I wouldn't be the least surprised knowing asus to find that there is a problem with the clock skews and high fsb.

I've read a post by mikeyakame in the GTL settings thread where he got his quad q6600 to an FSB of 483 i think it was on bios 701 so with no clock skews on the rampage formula. I'm not sure if his board is unique but i do know he was using a vNB of 1.6-1.7 but it shows that it is possible. I have his bios settings if your interested.

[Alien Grey]

@A-Grey
I wouldn't be the least surprised knowing asus to find that there is a problem with the clock skews and high fsb.

I've read a post by mikeyakame in the GTL settings thread where he got his quad q6600 to an FSB of 483 i think it was on bios 701 so with no clock skews on the rampage formula. I'm not sure if his board is unique but i do know he was using a vNB of 1.6-1.7 but it shows that it is possible. I have his bios settings if your interested.

I know his settings. I tried with changing the NB GTL Voltage Reference to 0.63X and higher FSB termination Voltage but it doesn't make it better.


Here are a few pictures.

This one is with Ai ClockTwister Lighter and DRAM Static Read Disabled. You can compare the bandwidth with the one I posted before with Ai ClockTwister Light and DRAM Static Read Enabled.




This one is with higher NB Voltage running MemTest For Windows. I should say trying to run MemTest for Windows.

[greg.m]

@SoLoR

This Gigabyte BIOS on my ASUS Rampage Formula is just a joke. I know it would brick my board. I just wanted to say that Gigabyte can make a BIOS that give you a stable high FSB overclock and ASUS can't or won't make one.


@leo27

I'll ask to update the ROM.


@greg.m

Try to get a stable running board with 9 X 470MHz and DDR 1253MHz with tRD6 and let us know how you are doing.



I'll prepare another mail to ASUS and this time it won't be just for my contact at ASUS Tech Support.



There's only one thing left to try for me and that is don't use the CPU and NB Clock Skew. I've got a feeling that this also has something to do with the failure on high FSB.

Im trying it right now...

[greg.m]

Im trying it right now...

No way... to pass memtest with this mem speed itried everything but nothing. dont know if its my system or not but its impossible. Has someone run error free >1200 speeds with rampage and blade or trident modules?