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    Well, I for one love Opera and have been using it exclusively since 5.0. Having said that, I don't really know what else is there to say, besides that it just works for me

    Although I really hope they would drop some of the features like the bittorrent client, and maybe even the email. I gather most users really don't require such functionality from their browser, and when the overall userbase isn't exactly huge, I feel some of that additional featureset goes wasted.

    Only thing I need FF for, is for some occasional greasemonkey stuff. 90% of my browsing is done with Opera.

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    now wiating for 10.20 alpha

    to bad that's my upload is to low for unite

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitokiri69 View Post
    Well, I for one love Opera and have been using it exclusively since 5.0. Having said that, I don't really know what else is there to say, besides that it just works for me
    Unite

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    now wiating for 10.20 alpha
    yep, waiting for it too... I wish they would add some encryption (ssl) ability to the unite connections. Also, I honestly prefer LiveMesh (MS), but it's still in beta, its future is unclear, and it's really bugged...but I prefer the concept. While with Unite, Opera must obviously be on all the time, Mesh doesn't even require your PC to be on if you include the Live Desktop in the chain, but others must have LiveMesh installed too, where Unite can provide usable links to people who don't even have Opera on their systems.
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    a great browser (best for me) just got better...

    many nice improvements in v10 and now this... I can see sharing/uploading small files exclusively with Unite now


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    I tried it briefly last night, didnt see the usefulness of Unite unfortunately and the lack of adblocking is what put me off, i used to love Opera before the days of banners and ads and flash ads were created. Now its too much hassle to have to mess with a ini file for it.

    I just use Firefox + Adblock Plus which works perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scubar View Post
    I tried it briefly last night, didnt see the usefulness of Unite unfortunately and the lack of adblocking is what put me off, i used to love Opera before the days of banners and ads and flash ads were created. Now its too much hassle to have to mess with a ini file for it.

    I just use Firefox + Adblock Plus which works perfectly.
    Just overwrite the ini with a pre-made filter list. There are many of them out there, and it's not exactly complex file surgery. If you can't be bothered to do a simple file copy operation, I hold no sympathy.

    Something about Unite.
    I've seen this mentioned for what seems like ages. What is it/what does it do? I've been an Opera (frequently on beta builds even) user for years but haven't seen anything about it in the actual browser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post
    Just overwrite the ini with a pre-made filter list. There are many of them out there, and it's not exactly complex file surgery. If you can't be bothered to do a simple file copy operation, I hold no sympathy.

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    i'm seaching for an adblock alternative for opera as well and tried several pre-made filter lists, but it doesn't work that well for me. 50% of the ads are still there whereas adblock plus with ff removes almost 100% of the ads. this is the only reason i didn't look into opera any further in the past, even though v10 is very tempting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaZz! View Post
    i'm seaching for an adblock alternative for opera as well and tried several pre-made filter lists, but it doesn't work that well for me. 50% of the ads are still there whereas adblock plus with ff removes almost 100% of the ads. this is the only reason i didn't look into opera any further in the past, even though v10 is very tempting.
    I see very few ads with my list. I'll PM it to you if you'd like. (End of personal response, beginning of generic rant The last time I posted it publicly, people got hot and bothered that I had the audacity to block XS ads. It's pretty simple, really. They're still ads regardless of who benefits from them. I'm -not- going to click on them except on accident, so it doesn't at all benefit anyone for me to keep them on my own screen. </rant>
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    I tried Opera in the past, far too bloated in comparison to Firefox and the lack of an extension frame work annoyed me too.

    E.g. to adblock you have to manually download .ini and .css files etc. Also BB code integration into a right click context menu meant further editing of .ini files and it wasn't as powerful as the Firefox BB code extension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post
    Just overwrite the ini with a pre-made filter list. There are many of them out there, and it's not exactly complex file surgery. If you can't be bothered to do a simple file copy operation, I hold no sympathy.



    I've seen this mentioned for what seems like ages. What is it/what does it do? I've been an Opera (frequently on beta builds even) user for years but haven't seen anything about it in the actual browser.
    Thats what i did and some ended up blocking even the bbc website banners and then others didnt even work at all hardly.

    ABP is so much better and simpler, you simply click on the image you dont like and adblock it and its gone forever, the generic lists you import aswell do block 99% of ads you find on websites and the ones that slip through are very quickly and easily removed.

    I used to love Opera but i think now Firefox has matured enough to overtake it with its ease of use and functionality.
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    holy crap are they for real with that unite thing... jesus age chr***...... wtf... thats like the biggest security risk i have seen outside of plugging your computer directly into your cable or dsl modem with no firewall ...

    jesus...

    that aside i think its a fracking awesome thing... the problem is that few people use Opera,,,, so... sharing with your friends and family is a nightmare.... especially trying to share with your less than computer savvy friends and family.
    no more imageshack, no more flicker, no more megaupload.... this truly is what i wanted for the internet... but its a MASSIVE security risk,, jesus,, just a huge gapping hole just waiting for any 'ol 13 yr old kid with enough computer skills to sniff you out.
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    Unite? Is that the "run your own web server without any knowledge of security" feature?

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    I love Opera. Used to use it way back when, 4.0-5.0 time frame, then went to Firefox/IE for a long while. Picked up Opera again and haven't looked back. It loads pages faster (most of the time), is less taxing on the CPu, offers many of the great benefits that Firefox does yet is much more optimzed with the add ons and tools it offers. I tried Chrome recently, was quite underwhelmed and shortly went back to Opera.

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    just FYI, but please don't turn this thread into a political discussion, otherwise our dear fellows from XS are gonna lock it It's about a "Chinese" version of Opera mini browser for mobile phones that now complies with Chinese authorities requirements, and didn't until now. See the reactions in the thread here:
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    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11...ini_and_china/
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8376555.stm
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    the 10.20 alpha is out... but after this story with China, I don't know what's gonna happen with Opera on my system, I feel like ditching it honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekrel View Post
    I tried Opera in the past, far too bloated in comparison to Firefox and the lack of an extension frame work annoyed me too.

    E.g. to adblock you have to manually download .ini and .css files etc. Also BB code integration into a right click context menu meant further editing of .ini files and it wasn't as powerful as the Firefox BB code extension.

    Will give this a try though to see if anything has changed
    Opera, Safari, Netscape, and FireFox all use the same (Netscape) plugin format. That's why the same version of flash works in all of them. If you're missing a plugin you like, just drop it into your Opera plugins folder. Opera ad blocking also works out of the box like I'll mention below.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scubar View Post
    Thats what i did and some ended up blocking even the bbc website banners and then others didnt even work at all hardly.

    ABP is so much better and simpler, you simply click on the image you dont like and adblock it and its gone forever, the generic lists you import aswell do block 99% of ads you find on websites and the ones that slip through are very quickly and easily removed.

    I used to love Opera but i think now Firefox has matured enough to overtake it with its ease of use and functionality.
    I don't think that's a fair assessment. Your complaint that you can't just click on images you want to block is not true.

    Right click on a page, select block content, and then click on what you don't want to see. Clicking on an image blocks that folder. Shift-clicking on an image blocks just that specific image. If you want to customize the scope to be more aggressive (such as block http://adplace.com/* instead of http://adplace.com/company/*), click on Details and do whatever you'd like. It displays only the stuff blocked on the current page so that it is easy to edit the stuff that matters for your desired blocking operation. It has the capability to do both click-to-block and customized blocking right in the GUI as you'd expect.

    If you go to Tools > Prefs > Content > Blocked Content you can see the browser-wide list. If you pre-load a block list and it blocks something you don't want, you've got three ways to remove that block. You can do the same procedure as blocking, just in reverse. If you click on a blocked image in blocking mode, it un-blocks.

    One of the biggest hurdles I frequently see with new (and sometimes older) Opera users is that they don't know how to use features in their browser. I don't mean that as a complaint against any one of you specifically, but there is a lot going on and it isn't all intuitively accessible. Once you know what's there and how to use it, it's quite nice. If you don't want to take the time to learn anything that is different, that's up to you. That just doesn't make it "bad" in and of itself, and I don't think it deserves the bad reviews because of it.

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    the 10.20 alpha is out... but after this story with China, I don't know what's gonna happen with Opera on my system, I feel like ditching it honestly.
    Heaven forbid Opera comply with Chinese law for distribution inside China.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post

    One of the biggest hurdles I frequently see with new (and sometimes older) Opera users is that they don't know how to use features in their browser. I don't mean that as a complaint against any one of you specifically, but there is a lot going on and it isn't all intuitively accessible. Once you know what's there and how to use it, it's quite nice. If you don't want to take the time to learn anything that is different, that's up to you. That just doesn't make it "bad" in and of itself, and I don't think it deserves the bad reviews because of it.

    Couldn't agree more. I've been using Opera for quite some time yet I still learn things and discover new possibilities as time goes on.

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