overvolt tool at tpu downloads section
overvolt tool at tpu downloads section
Wow, is that allowed mate? I've seen Guru3D forced to take it offline yesterday
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yeah whats up with that... why??
i got it yesterday anyway + msi ab wont increase ram volts i dont think
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Sheer speculation on my part but I am guessing that the stock heatsink can't handle the heat on a standard overclock as it is let alone upping the voltage. They are probably trying to avoid unecesary Rma's from people playing with fire literally
Originally Posted by chew*
The stock heatsink can take it, there is no problem. But when you up the voltages you go out of ATX specs, and you could not have a standard retail product do that. A special OC edition...that's a different story I guess
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FYI, the Sapphire Redline program accomplishes the same thing as the AMD Overvolt Tool.
i dont know .. amd didnt give me access to the tool, no access to the press ftp at all .. i didnt download it from guru3d, was sent to me via email.Wow, is that allowed mate? I've seen Guru3D forced to take it offline yesterday
nah.. no problem with the heatsink .. i just 1.337V 950 / 1300 with the stock cooler, default fan speed, below 100°C.Sheer speculation on my part but I am guessing that the stock heatsink can't handle the heat on a standard overclock as it is let alone upping the voltage. They are probably trying to avoid unecesary Rma's from people playing with fire literally
the problem is that if it says "AMD"/"ATI" some idiots might make them responsible if their card dies because of it
sapphire redline is back ?
From what I know the ATX Specifications do not state the voltage at which the processors of add-in cards need to run at. Rather, it states the input voltage at which they operate at and the limits thereof.The stock heatsink can take it, there is no problem. But when you up the voltages you go out of ATX specs, and you could not have a standard retail product do that. A special OC edition...that's a different story I guess
^ I think he meant the 300w power limit, not the voltage limit
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spec also talks about max current/wattage. more juice = more current = more watts -> could be out of spec. so technically it goes out of atx spec, you really shouldnt worry about it. overclocking without voltage increase puts the card beyond 300w too
Yup. Got it with the card they sent me.
According to Sapphire it only works with their OC Edition but you never know...
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Agreed. The max allowable from the connectors they are using is as follows:
PCI-E 8-pin: 150W
PCI-E 6-pin: 75W
PCI-E slot: 75W
Total: 300W
That's pretty darn close to the ATX specs and would explain why some manufacturers will be releasing OC Editions with 2x 8-pin connectors.
However, having reviews published using a tool that ATI didn't intend to be available to the general public leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
dont worry about those wattages, i have demonstrated on our forums that it's possible to run 150W through a single 6-pin without problems, a single 6-pin powered a 5970 in that caseAgreed. The max allowable from the connectors they are using is as follows:
PCI-E 8-pin: 150W
PCI-E 6-pin: 75W
PCI-E slot: 75W
Total: 300W
That's pretty darn close to the ATX specs and would explain why some manufacturers will be releasing OC Editions with 2x 8-pin connectors.
However, having reviews published using a tool that ATI didn't intend to be available to the general public leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
overvolt utility is here....http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads...e_Utility.html
I got the tool from AMD FTP.
Regarding the ATX specs...this is not about having problems if you go beyond 300W, I think I definately went far beyond that with 1.3/1.15v 1025/1200 MHz, and had no problems what so ever. That is not the problem. The problem is that when you launch a product you want to stay within the rated specs for that kind of product so you have no problems with regulations, compliance, laws of different countries, bla, bla. So officialy, you do not break any regulations with the stock clocks and volts, the maximum TDP is 294W. However, if a partner like Sapphire, Asus, etc, want to go beyond those specs in order to offer the market a special, spcific product, it is their problem how they manage with the regulations and such. It is just a paper-work issue, not a hardware issue, the hardware can take it
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We were talking about ATX specs. Not about how far you can push connectors outside of those specs.
Seems a bit odd indeed. But hopefully they got a new version coming. Could have been issues with the previous one etc, but who knows..However, having reviews published using a tool that ATI didn't intend to be available to the general public leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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They promised great OCability, so they'll have to deliver. So I guess they will release something soon.
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Well...the product does have great OCability. Just like it allways was, it is up to the overclocker to take it to where it can go. Darn, with all this software tools nobody thinks "wooooot....great mods can be done on this puppies" anymore...
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OCability != actual overclocking. from what i understand, what they said was something like: if you have the tools and the skills you can get the maximum out of the card, we did not artificially limit it - mainly talking about ccc overdrive limits .. now ask who of the pros is stopped by the ccc limit
the special "oc" features they have are not really special, they are part of the normal design and pr just needed to fill a couple of slides
or would you interpret what they said as "all our other products suck for overclocking" ?
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I understand this is probably just marketing, yeah. Pushing the card from 725 to 1000MHz with stock cooler is still pretty impressive IMO.
And in fact do I think they are trying to show that this card is better for OCing than other ones, yep.
Maybe to counter people's disappointment about the stock clocks, or Fermi expectations, who knows...
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Well, almost 30% overclocking on High end card (top of the line) it is something rather uncommon, and I really appreciate this card for that.
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am i the only one who considered any speed below 850mhz to be classified as underclocked?
I'll bet ATI knew there would be a lot of people who thought this way. That's why they underclocked and binned to stay within the specification - but then they also encourage overclocking. That way they don't have to shoulder the legal responsibility for making a card that exceeds spec and kills weak systems nor when you exceed the specs yourself. That way they get all the good press of "catering to enthusiasts" and being good overclockers without having to take as much responsibility when things go wrong.
Using those kind of business tactics is a bit shady, IMO. It's something you can definitely feel the legal department's hand in. But on the flipside, we should know as overclockers that the responsibility is ours when we take things past spec. And at least they know the overclocking community exists and are willing to make our jobs slightly easier.
I have three retail HD 5970 cards sitting here and not one of them will OC more than 5% without a SIGNIFICANT bump to the voltages. One of them is even slightly unstable at reference speeds.
From my experience the overclocking potential with stock voltage is extremely limited. Much more so than any other high-end card released in the last few years.
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