Atom, and most importantly ARMOriginally Posted by Aerwidh
Atom, and most importantly ARM
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CPU: Phenom II X4 955BE
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I find this slide about 32nm tech interesting:
50% better than 45nm! That's awesome considering how good is 45nm tech especially with the latest upgrades that gave us "C3" Phenom II
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So, it will be SOI + high-k metal gate + 2nd gen. immersion lithography. Intel doesn't use SOI and they will use the immersion lithography for the first time on 32nm.
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That's not product improvement, it's some unspecified measure of transistor improvement. Probably related to power/leakage as well, since that would provide the larger number to brag about, and they are finally using metal gates at this node, which helps a lot with leakage.
Per Anand, all the Llano APU ("fusion") stuff in 2011 has Phenom II-based CPU cores.
So, while they will likely have a stronger GPU side, the CPU side will be about 2 generations behind Intel's Sandybridge/Ivybridge.
Bulldozer is high-end desktop and server only (at least in 2011).
pfff Anand! Wouldn't be surprised if you were Anand my dear terrace215 fellow
Anand just has that unexplainable urge to place Intel in any AMD related article, and if possible at the top:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=3673
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That is the very first thing I noticed as well, it stuck out like a sore thumb! I glanced at the first page, then jumped straight to the conclusion. And as suspected, it read very much like that intel ad did.pfff Anand! Wouldn't be surprised if you were Anand my dear terrace215 fellow
Anand just has that unexplainable urge to place Intel in any AMD related article, and if possible at the top:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=3673
Anand is probably not the best source for unbiased AMD related content. ATi, sure, they love 'em. After all intel has said a few times in the past that nv worried them the most. That might have been a bad decision!
No,Brazos platform will have APUs too,and Brazos is bobcat core which in turn is one module from Bulldozer.Bobcat is a 2 CPU core product for ultrathin market,with Atom like power capabilities(they stated super low power, sub 1W cores) and 90% of mainstream CPU of today (in terms of IPC/overall perf.).
I have no idea how Bobcat based APU will fare against SandyB. but it will have the same x86 ISA capability(AVX 256b) so AMD can opt to make a 4 core option and target some other (mobile) market with it.
don't want to go in to your need to state obvious...
of course it's a measure of transistor improvement! Better transistors -> better CPUs! Yeah?
there are bunch of possible parameters that could be related, but regardless it's good to hear that GloFo has mastered HKMG so wellProbably related to power/leakage as well, since that would provide the larger number to brag about, and they are finally using metal gates at this node, which helps a lot with leakage.
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I think that is 50% scaling improvements in performance per watt expected over 45nm.
PS.: Anand is ridiculous and pathetic...
Last edited by Oliverda; 11-11-2009 at 01:23 PM.
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well guess what! Anand is running additional article, and this time without Intel PPT slides
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He has the b*lls to correct himself.well guess what! Anand is running additional article, and this time without Intel PPT slides
That's good.
@ w0mbat
this single post should be put as sticky in AMD room!
"“Bulldozer”
Market: Server and Client
What is it? A multi-threaded performance-oriented x86 processor core contained in the “Zambezi” processor for client PCs and “Interlagos” and “Valencia” processors for servers. Included in the “Scorpius” desktop PC platform and “Maranello,” “Adelaide,” and “San Marino” server platforms. “Bulldozer” will be a completely new, high performance architecture for the mainstream server, desktop and notebook PC markets that employs a new approach to multithreaded compute performance for achieving advanced efficiency and throughput. “Bulldozer” is designed to give AMD an exceptional CPU option for linking with GPUs in highly scalable, single-chip Accelerated Processing Unit (APU) configurations. “Bulldozer” offers AMD another exceptional CPU option for linking with GPUs in highly scalable, single chip APU configurations."
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Look this guy has many legs!!
it would be overoptimistic trying to fit x86 power needs in head-2-head fight with ARM... Intel can't do that with In-order Atom, so I don't see how can it be achieved with OoO CPU... and I'm not talking about idle power...Atom, and most importantly ARM
ARM with GloFo's low power 28nm tech will be unchallengeable when it comes to power, and vastness of ARM market can cover more expensive specialized production technology.
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Well, ARM is even getting into OoO designs now, so it's not just straight power consumption, but the computing power available in a power envelope and core area, since we're heading into more and more integration. With a Fusion concept AMD might have a chance, seeing as that's what ARM offerings have right now, ie. a SoC with a cpu core plus some other accelerators (eg. Nvidia's Tegra or TI's OMAPs). However that'd require a lot of effort to pursue on AMD's part, which I would question them having the resources for at the current time.
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