All i've got are 667mhz 1gb sticks.
You arent stressing the board 24/7 by the sounds of it
All i've got are 667mhz 1gb sticks.
You arent stressing the board 24/7 by the sounds of it
All along the watchtower the watchmen watch the eternal return.
No, not unless just leaving it on 24/7 can be considered stressing it. It already puts out enough heat to significantly warm the room it's in; I'd hate to see what it would do if I actually had it crunching numbers while idle. Could probably turn off my heat pump for the winter! I prefer power-saving to number-crunching.
My rig is probably overkill for what little I do with it, but I plan for it to last me a good long time. Putting Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on it as soon as I find some free time, and when SLC SSDs come down in price, I'll move the OS to a RAID 0 SSD array. Completely unnecessary--no rational justification for it whatsoever--but that's never stopped me before.
Whereas in the past, a rig could be outdated 6 months after it was built, nowadays it seems that CPU technology has peaked, at least in terms of performance. CPU manufacturers now focus on making their chips more efficient, stuffing more cores into them, or adding features. I figure it will be a good long while before eight 3.2GHz cores aren't enough to do anything I want... as long as the magic smoke stays in the computer.
Well I hate to say it, but then you're in the wrong forums, my friend.Originally Posted by Syndil
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Let's be nice guys.. Some people have to see the "light" to understand what we do and our passions in doing so..
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I realize this. The only reason I'm finally posting is to fulfill my quest for Kingston HyperX FB-DIMMs, and this seemed to be a good place to look. Seems I was not wrong about that.
Perhaps once I get the new RAM I'll play around a bit with the apps you guys use--mostly Folding@Home, I assume?--but for now, with my self-modded Masscool heatsinks, one of my current 2GB sticks idles at ~100°C and the other around 83°C. At least, that's what CPUID Hardware Monitor Pro is reporting. I find it a bit hard to believe, really. But if it is indeed that hot, I doubt it would survive a stress test.
Hey, that WAS nice.Let's be nice guys.. Some people have to see the "light" to understand what we do and our passions in doing so..
Just have a look at the title of this forum, it should give you a hintI realize this. The only reason I'm finally posting is to fulfill my quest for Kingston HyperX FB-DIMMs, and this seemed to be a good place to look. Seems I was not wrong about that.
Perhaps once I get the new RAM I'll play around a bit with the apps you guys use--mostly Folding@Home, I assume?--but for now, with my self-modded Masscool heatsinks, one of my current 2GB sticks idles at ~100°C and the other around 83°C. At least, that's what CPUID Hardware Monitor Pro is reporting. I find it a bit hard to believe, really. But if it is indeed that hot, I doubt it would survive a stress test.
But man, that ram temp is bad... I suggest adding a fan to blow on the rams ASAP.
Last edited by jcool; 10-24-2009 at 02:09 AM.
Agreed, all FBDimms need a fan and a good one blowing on them.
The AMB(buffer) chip can get hot enough to cook on without good fans on them.
Both my harpertown machines have a 120x25mm 60cfm fan placed 2" off them on a bracket..Keeps memory temps in the 40's..
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I didn't even bother trying to RMA mine. All I needed tio do was watch the sorry state of affairs for those here who tried to get Asus to do the right thing. I really need to get it out of my dining room. Makes me sick every time I look at it. Almost $500 for what? 6 or 8 weeks of use?!?
Bastages! I'll probably never buy Asus again, and I buy a lot of boards. To me it is incredible that Asus refuses to do the right thing for those who bought this board. You would think they would not want to alienate and lose the types of consumers who were inclined to get this board. We are not your average consumers... Whatever! Screw them.
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Already have a 120mm Arctic Cooling PWM blowing over the RAM heatpipes. Once I get the HyperX FB-DIMMs in there I will attempt to mod the VGA duct of my Cooler Master Cosmos into a RAM duct. RAM needs it far more than the vid card.
the heatsinks might be making poor contact
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Thanks to Movieman, I now have 4 1GB Kingston HyperX FB-DIMMs on the board. Thanks, Movieman! When I first put them on I was a little concerned, as the temp of one of the AMBs had reached 103.5°C while just browsing the web. But after shutting down and swapping the inside DIMMs for the outside DIMMs, everything seems OK now. A game of TF2 maxxed the temps out at 103°C, and after returning to the desktop the temps of all of them have crept back down to below 100°C. That I can live with. The maximum temp for the AMB is 110°C.
I still plan on building a duct for the memory. I've got a 120mm Arctic Cooling PWM fan plugged into the memory fan header, but it's just attached to the rear exhaust vent on my Cooler Master Cosmos case. I'll build a duct that will cause that fan to pull air directly through the heatpipe heatsinks of the FB-DIMMs to maybe get temps a bit lower and allow the fan to spin slower.
Amazing how much heat that little AMB chip puts off. Makes me wonder how efficient a heating element it is.
Funny how you guys all get >100C mem temps.. You do know the AMB starts to throttle at 90-100C yeah? So you're definitely loosing performance at the very least. I don't think I could sleep at night with my ram at 100C
those AMB's must be glowing red hot
jcool, I read JEDEC's spec for FB-DIMM, and while the TEMPLO, TEMPMID, and TEMPHI triggers are mentioned, apparently it is up to the manufacturer to provide their own values for each variable. JEDEC did say that the minimum temp for TEMPHI is 110°C, so my previous statement that 110°C is the maximum temp for an AMB was inaccurate. The only specific temps I was able to find via the Google are from here:
TEMPLO: 106.00C
TEMPMID: 109.00C
TEMPHI: 124.00C
These are apparently from Intel's specification. If I assume that my AMBs have the same trigger points, I should not be experiencing any throttling as I have not yet hit 106°C. Actually after re-reading the specification, TEMPLO does not cause throttling, but "is generally used to inform the host to accelerate refresh events." Throttling does not occur until TEMPMID. At TEMPHI the FB-DIMM will be effectively turned off, probably resulting in a system crash.
And BTW... Holy crap! 124°C??!
Last edited by Syndil; 11-03-2009 at 11:08 AM.
And another one bites the dust. Just returned home to find my Fileserver down. Reboot --> no effect, power on/off - no signal. Great. Haven't put the diag card in but I don't need to.It#s gonna say FF
Yay, so that's the 3rd or so dead board. This one lasted around 9 months, was running 420*9 with the X5450's undervolted to ~1,15V load Vcore. Extra fans on all the VRMs and mobo chips, CPU temps were at or below 50 while crunching, mobo below 45, rams below 55 at all times.
So yeah, we now know it's not a cooling issue
Doode that sucks.
So yeah, I'm still running my Z7s (2nd one) after all the headaches I went through. Then you all yelled at me about my cooling and horrible temps. I'm sure I deserved that.
My temps got better over time, but I still hit 80c+ under load. Stability has been great. I rebooted for the first time in a long time simply to update to Windows 7.
I haven't even tried to OC her. After my first board (documented here) and the terror of the FF etc, I was happy to have her running.
What I took out of this, I think, is that a lot of these boards are very sensitive and might not work out of the lab so to say - up to spec.
I'm just happy mine has hung on this long. But yeah, you can put me down for 1 at least (sent it back a few days later after posting here).
And another one bites the dust. Just returned home to find my Fileserver down. Reboot --> no effect, power on/off - no signal. Great. Haven't put the diag card in but I don't need to.It#s gonna say FF
Yay, so that's the 3rd or so dead board. This one lasted around 9 months, was running 420*9 with the X5450's undervolted to ~1,15V load Vcore. Extra fans on all the VRMs and mobo chips, CPU temps were at or below 50 while crunching, mobo below 45, rams below 55 at all times.
So yeah, we now know it's not a cooling issue
CASE: Apevia Jupiter X Full Tower
PSU: Corsair 620 HX PSU
MB: Asus Z7S (rev 0302)
CPUS: 2x XEON 5410 2.33Ghz Harpertowns (stock cooling)
RAM: Transcend 4x2GB DDR2 667Mhz FBDIMM
VIDEO: 2x Diamond Viper 3870 HD 512MB GDDR4
HDD: 2x Seagate Barracuda 250GB Raid 1 OS, 2x SG B 1TB Raid 1 Data
DVD: 2x DVD Burners w/LightScribe
Cooling: 5x 120mm Fans (2 in, 3 out), 2x40mm Ram
OS: 7 64 Bit Ultimate
Displays: 40" LCD 1080p, 2x Sceptre 24" LCD 1080p
*edits signature*
All along the watchtower the watchmen watch the eternal return.
I've sold the board I got from RMA before it could die on me
No more Asus for me .
Well, thankfully I've got an RMA board lying here at all times
So it's just a matter of hours to get it back up and running. Still, what a stupid hassle.
I guess I'm gonna sell them all too.. a shame but this sucks.
I'd love to sell my new board but i'd feel like crap if it died on whoever bought it
All along the watchtower the watchmen watch the eternal return.
Ok, so I just swapped mobos for the 3rd or 4th time.. Dual X5450 back online. I really didn't want to do this, but every other option would have involved downtime and monetary investment, both of which are currently out of the question.
And since this POS board has proven that it will die regardless of what settings I use, I'm now back at full speed. If it's gonna die anyway might as well do some damage while it lasts... Next RMA scheduled in 6 months
Send an e-mail to advance.rma@asustek.nl
http://support.asus.com/repair/repai...Language=en-us
They should be able to replace your dead mobo rather quickly.
Want a laugh? Check out this nonsense!
Lows are from PC returning from standby. And the -1 on the GPU is just bogus. I don't have this in a deep freeze.
I figured if the temps were going to break it, I would break it now while it's still under warranty. Despite these ridiculous temps, it's still running like a champ at just over 1½ years old.
My GF has often said that I "s*** luck." I'll take it!
I don't see anything nonsense there? Your FBDimms are just running too hot, like everybody else's (excluding mine :P: ) which means they'll throttle a bit.
Reason why your (and many other) boards is still alive is because you don't crunch on it 24/7/365. There is a design flaw in the VRM circuitery that kills these boards when running 24/7 loaded, whether they are overclocked or not. If you run them idling all the time the board will last through its 2 year warranty span and THEN die.
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