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    Come on drop the x86 arch allready and make something new , jk jk.

    Well i hope this will be the beast that makes Intel kneel down

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    Quote Originally Posted by rintamarotta View Post
    Come on drop the x86 arch allready and make something new , jk jk.

    Well i hope this will be the beast that makes Intel kneel down
    many have come and tried. The problem is the value of legacy software.
    Fast computers breed slow, lazy programmers
    The price of reliability is the pursuit of the utmost simplicity. It is a price which the very rich find most hard to pay.
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    I agree with both of the previous 2 posts... (NN and Rint)

    x86 has been around forever, and probably a little too long...

    The real winner of all this would be the company who could come up with a whole new arch that could interpret x86 instructions (maintaining compatability without much performance loss)
    while offering a whole new option for easier/faster code, bypassing the legacy stuff.

    I'm not naive, I'm sure this wouldn't be easy, and it would open a whole new can of worms, with licenseing being the major problem!

    I really think it's at least close to time though, x86/x64 are both getting a little long in the tooth....

    If Dresdenboy is even close with his projections, Bulldozer might just be the chip to take us to a whole new level of performance...

    It's not like AMD hasn't "rocked the boat" before, one thing I love about AMD is they seem to think outside the box...

    Personally I have high hpoes for Bulldozer, can't wait!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveburt714 View Post
    I agree with both of the previous 2 posts... (NN and Rint)

    x86 has been around forever, and probably a little too long...

    The real winner of all this would be the company who could come up with a whole new arch that could interpret x86 instructions (maintaining compatability without much performance loss)
    while offering a whole new option for easier/faster code, bypassing the legacy stuff.

    I'm not naive, I'm sure this wouldn't be easy, and it would open a whole new can of worms, with licenseing being the major problem!

    I really think it's at least close to time though, x86/x64 are both getting a little long in the tooth....

    If Dresdenboy is even close with his projections, Bulldozer might just be the chip to take us to a whole new level of performance...

    It's not like AMD hasn't "rocked the boat" before, one thing I love about AMD is they seem to think outside the box...

    Personally I have high hpoes for Bulldozer, can't wait!

    in theory it is extremely easy. The problem is selling cheaper systems with 42% more CPU performance. [to have slightly better net performance in emulated software]
    And having equal or superior graphics, audio, networking, and disk performance.

    Now ideally AMD or Intel can slowly shift the platform to instruction set agnostic and then simply plug the new "Uber" CPU in and patch up the operating systems; thus providing a smooth/cheap transition to the new preferred platform.
    Fast computers breed slow, lazy programmers
    The price of reliability is the pursuit of the utmost simplicity. It is a price which the very rich find most hard to pay.
    http://www.lighterra.com/papers/modernmicroprocessors/
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    Quote Originally Posted by nn_step View Post
    in theory it is extremely easy. The problem is selling cheaper systems with 42% more CPU performance. [to have slightly better net performance in emulated software]
    And having equal or superior graphics, audio, networking, and disk performance.

    Now ideally AMD or Intel can slowly shift the platform to instruction set agnostic and then simply plug the new "Uber" CPU in and patch up the operating systems; thus providing a smooth/cheap transition to the new preferred platform.
    will never happen.....it makes too much sense ;p.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rintamarotta View Post
    Come on drop the x86 arch allready and make something new , jk jk.

    Well i hope this will be the beast that makes Intel kneel down

    ARM, MIPS, CUDA, PowerPC, VLIW architecture, etc etc etc
    those are the famous example of alternative architecture available and alive for software developer to adapt but so far, not much effort has been spent
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