The program author did a nice job explaining in his thread. Basically, he says I'd have to do a run in the billions of digits to see solid CPU usage.
The program author did a nice job explaining in his thread. Basically, he says I'd have to do a run in the billions of digits to see solid CPU usage.
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You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
I thought Y-Cruncher was hitting 100% on 16-thread Xeon systems. If they're pulling times like they are without 100% utilization, that says something.
EDIT: Particle, you need to horde ram like a dragon hording gold. You got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE RAM!
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Originally Posted by phelan1777
I'd be inclined to think real core count would matter more in terms of how badly the problem surfaces. For the HT people, they'll each have two threads running per physical core, and that's going to offer a much better chance of keeping them all loaded up.
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might be hitting Hyper Transport bottleneck too.
is at 1000 mhz?
HAVE NO FEAR!
"AMD fallen angel"
You didn't get the memo? 1 hour 'Fugger time' is equal to 12 hours of regular time.
1.14GHz HT between CPU and NB, but that isn't terribly important. The CPUs negotiate their own HT3 link offering 4.8GT/s.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
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Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
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You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
Nvidia's replacement for Ntune has everything but vcore control. I, like you have hit an oc wall on my motherboard (Tyan S2927-E) but mine is needing some additional vcore to bump my 2389s past 3.45ghz.
ASRock X399 Fatal1ty
1950x Threadripper
32gb DDR4
GTX 1070
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That's socket 940. I find references to the lga1207 funtional datasheet everywhere (#31118 and/or #41696), but not the papers themselves...
Surprising, considering Socket F was designed to be used with FPGAs aswell as x86 CPUs...
Looks like the Istanbul processors use Fr6 which is document #45603.
Hawk, what HT ref do you get up to before crashing?
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Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
Well I just tested it and dropping the Multi down gave me no additional overclocking, so looks like anything over 234-235htt it's not stable.
I also noticed with clockgen that this motherboard (chipset likely) has no PCI lock.
That could be an issue if anything is on the PCI bus. All I have on mine is a XFI Audio Card, but I am not getting any wierd looping sound crashes that are typical with audio card problems.
I will say that my Asus KFN32-D SLI will do more than 240htt... but no shanghai support there.
ASRock X399 Fatal1ty
1950x Threadripper
32gb DDR4
GTX 1070
__________________________________________________ ____
Looks like we're mostly stuck in the same boat them. I don't think vCore is going to help us. Have you tried overvolting your chipset yet? I think that may be out only bet until new boards come out this fall.
I see you're using the Kingston ECC/Reg DDR2-800 like myself. Were you the chap buying out all of Newegg's stock a while back? I had to wait weeks to get a full compliment. heh
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Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
No chipset voltage control. No voltage control of any kind.
No they were out of stock.. i bought directly from Kingston. 4 sticks atm, will buy 4 more next month.
ASRock X399 Fatal1ty
1950x Threadripper
32gb DDR4
GTX 1070
__________________________________________________ ____
I think the Newegg supply issue was due to Kingston changing over from dual to single rank.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
I have the dual rank stuff:
KVR800D2D8P6K2/4G
4GB 800MHz DDR2 ECC Reg with Parity CL6 DIMM (Kit of 2) Dual Rank, x8
ASRock X399 Fatal1ty
1950x Threadripper
32gb DDR4
GTX 1070
__________________________________________________ ____
The dual rank stuff went OOS for a week or so, then it deactivated entirely. A couple days later Newegg listed the modules again under a new listing and it was the single rank stuff (for $5 more, naturally). I've got a mix.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
isn't the HT 3.0 for core to core even then it would start at 2400 stock at 235 you'd but to 2800. HT to Nb is also chip to chip isn't it?
HAVE NO FEAR!
"AMD fallen angel"
You didn't get the memo? 1 hour 'Fugger time' is equal to 12 hours of regular time.
I don't know for sure if the CPU to CPU HT link is based off of the same reference clock or an internally generated one. HT links are always point to point, so in the case you asked, from CPU to NB.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
Hows the system coming along? Had a chance to populate those memory slots and run a slew of benchies yet?
Core i7 2600K@4.6Ghz| 16GB G.Skill@2133Mhz 9-11-10-28-38 1.65v| ASUS P8Z77-V PRO | Corsair 750i PSU | ASUS GTX 980 OC | Xonar DSX | Samsung 840 Pro 128GB |A bunch of HDDs and terabytes | Oculus Rift w/ touch | ASUS 24" 144Hz G-sync monitor
Anyone have any experience with ASA Computers? They're a Supermicro partner and all, but I'm curious as to why they're the first and only people to have the new H8DAi+ motherboards so far. I emailed them and they assure me the boards are in stock instead of a preorder. The price is fair.
http://www.asaservers.com/product.asp?pf_id=H8DAi%2B
What do you guys thing? Yay or nay on this vendor? I'm anxious to get started overclocking, using crossfire, and my IOMMU project, but I don't want to get burned for $400.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
I thought I read you got the new boards with new chipset? Come on lets see some 3.2ghz
Motherboard: GigaByte P67UD4 f6 | CPU: Intel 2500k 4.5ghz 1.26v | Memory: GSkill 2x4gb @ 1600mhz 1.34v | PSU: SeaSonic X650 Gold 650W | Video: AMD 6970 Koolance water block 880c/1450mem 1.035v | HDD: WD 640gb cavier black: VelociRaptor 300gb: Intel x-25 g2 80gb | Sound: Asus xonar D1 | OS: W7 64bit
I've got the new board. I'm still working with the creator of SetFSB to see if he can add support for my clock generator.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
Use the donate button -might speed up the work flow,looking
forward to the results/pics/etc from the new board
Everest has some numbers with the 12c Istanbul's
already:
CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Score
12x Opteron 2431 2400 MHz Supermicro H8DI3+-F SR5690 Unganged Dual DDR2-800R 6-6-6-18 CR1 49041
8x Xeon X5550 HT 2666 MHz Supermicro X8DTN+ i5520 Triple DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 CR1 42606
Nano L2200 1600 MHz VIA VB8001 CN896 Int. DDR2-667 SDRAM 5-5-5-12 CR2 41788
8x Xeon E5462 2800 MHz Intel S5400SF i5400 Quad DDR2-640FB 5-5-5-15 41561
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=110
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That's curious. When I try to run Everest, it just BSODs my system (as it also did for my last motherboard) when it tries to measure CPU frequency. I put 3250 yen in his coffer. Maybe that'll help if he notices it was my email address.
Last edited by Particle; 10-29-2009 at 06:19 AM.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
says on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_700_chipset_series
that Sp5100 is Sb700.
I don't know if that helps.but it's worth a try.
HAVE NO FEAR!
"AMD fallen angel"
You didn't get the memo? 1 hour 'Fugger time' is equal to 12 hours of regular time.
CPU-Z lists my SP5100 as an SB750, actually. It's kind of funny.
If I limit Windows to 4 CPUs, AOD will load. I just don't have control over HT ref. Of course, it would be of limited usefulness to only be able to run with 4 CPUs, but it would have been a start. Apparently AOD crashes if it doesn't have enough display spaces for the number of CPU cores or GPU cores in a system.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
Sorry, that's just so ridiculous it almost hurts.
Software Devs and their short-sightedness ("Who cares if it works, we can always patch it later, right? Let's go home now")
Fire up your ICQ some time, by the way.
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