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Thread: Core i5 650 Reaches 4.70 GHz on Air-Cooling

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    Why do you need quad if it has 4 threads that perform equally well?

    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    We have nearly 4.8 Ghz i7 920 stable already. On water, though.
    But not bad I guess.
    huh? Average 920 do 4-4.2 max with reasonable volts stable
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi View Post
    Why do you need quad if it has 4 threads that perform equally well?
    this has better overclocking, with less power, but its only going to be used for the cheap chips, kinda sounds wrong.

    i think with the quads you might start seeing limitations with the motherboard power

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArneMS View Post
    That sucks

    Does anyone know when 32nm CPUs are hitting the shelfes?
    ill take a guess at feb~
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    AFAIK January. But you can never be sure what Intel is up to in the last moment, they allways surprise us in a good way
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monstru View Post


    Why make such allegations my friend? Why would I deceive readers like that? Simply showing Clarkdale is good enough. Why would I start some rumours that will be put down in 1-2 months if they are not true?
    I'm not saying its a rumor or anything else. I am trying to put things into perspective before the thread gets out of hand with unrealistic expectations for Clarksdale.

    And yes, the 32nm process looks very promising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzfest05 View Post
    I dont get it my E8500 did 4.8 on air stable?
    show us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    I'm not saying its a rumor or anything else. I am trying to put things into perspective before the thread gets out of hand with unrealistic expectations for Clarksdale.

    And yes, the 32nm process looks very promising.
    you could have worded it better if that was your intention
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monstru View Post
    Well I think more is possible on air too, at the moment I am fighting with 190 BCLK, so the frequency and the volts were not the actual limit in the screenshot, but the BCLK. So, who knows.
    try subzero CPU
    i am at 240 bus

    but my chip doesnt like clocking high for some reason...i'm thinking it might be the bios donno
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post
    try subzero CPU
    i am at 240 bus

    but my chip doesnt like clocking high for some reason...i'm thinking it might be the bios donno
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    same as OP
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    awesome!
    4G at .8v sounds a lot more interesting than 4.7 on air...
    who needs that much cpu power besides for benching anyhow, having 4g at only .8v sounds great! thats 50% less volts than my 920!

    still dont get why intel would call this i5... this deserves i7 if not i8!

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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    awesome!
    4G at .8v sounds a lot more interesting than 4.7 on air...
    who needs that much cpu power besides for benching anyhow, having 4g at only .8v sounds great! thats 50% less volts than my 920!

    still dont get why intel would call this i5... this deserves i7 if not i8!
    perhaps for a new stepping or process refining. it might be like intels 65nm steppings. now that would be impressive. am i the only that is not impressed by 4.7GHz? back in the day doubling frequency was the norm for new processes. intel said the would be at 20GHz by the time they got to 45nm and now they are at 4.7. i miss frequency scaling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post
    try subzero CPU
    i am at 240 bus

    but my chip doesnt like clocking high for some reason...i'm thinking it might be the bios donno
    Hmm...your likes high BCLK but no high clocks, mine loves high clocks but not high BCLK. Pretty much sure it's the bios, it's to early for this


    Quote Originally Posted by Chumbucket843
    perhaps for a new stepping or process refining. it might be like intels 65nm steppings. now that would be impressive. am i the only that is not impressed by 4.7GHz? back in the day doubling frequency was the norm for new processes. intel said the would be at 20GHz by the time they got to 45nm and now they are at 4.7. i miss frequency scaling
    Well, in terms of Netburst performance, this is 20GHz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monstru View Post
    Hmm...your likes high BCLK but no high clocks, mine loves high clocks but not high BCLK. Pretty much sure it's the bios, it's to early for this



    youngpro has the same chip as me and his is stuck at 190 bus air cooled as well
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    That's not cool, the chip could do more even on air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi View Post
    Why do you need quad if it has 4 threads that perform equally well?
    No,Quad performs much better in most cases .....
















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    Ys, 2 cores / 4 threads is not exactly a quad-core, it is something between quad and dual, as performance. But that one tested above it's an i3 540. Normally those ones should not have HT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monstru View Post
    Ys, 2 cores / 4 threads is not exactly a quad-core, it is something between quad and dual, as performance. But that one tested above it's an i3 540. Normally those ones should not have HT.
    i3 has HT,but no turbo.....

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    I see that from your graphs

    If Intel will keep HT on i3 too, this will be veeeery interesting
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi View Post
    huh? Average 920 do 4-4.2 max with reasonable volts stable
    One chip against one chip... Not like they tested a hundred and all clocked that good. Not too impressive anyway in this case. I am expecting more from 32nm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post
    show us?


    SP2M 4.8GHz 1.55v Vcore

    metro.cl on XS

    So, ya not that impressed but the volts are nice, i would like a i7 based on 32nm tough.
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    Did anyone notice that i3 540 at stock speed outperformed Phenom II X3 720 in the majority of cases, according to benchmarks posted by mindfury ? It looks like those i3 can compete very well against Triple core CPUs, and lower end Quad cores

    Also, I wonder why they disabled Turbo mode in i5 750 and i7 860 ? It is unfair to compare a CPU to others when one of them have a feature disabled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monstru View Post
    Ys, 2 cores / 4 threads is not exactly a quad-core, it is something between quad and dual, as performance. But that one tested above it's an i3 540. Normally those ones should not have HT.
    Pentium will have 2 cores.
    Core i3 will have 2 cores with HyperThreading
    Core i5 will have 2 cores with HyperThreading and Turbo boost
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post
    but my chip doesnt like clocking high for some reason...i'm thinking it might be the bios donno
    or maybe its the socket ^^
    snif snif... whats that smell?



    hey! we need a new emoticon on xs, a cpu socket smoking or catching fire!

    Quote Originally Posted by Chumbucket843 View Post
    i miss frequency scaling.
    well, i wouldnt mind if wed see a netburst to core ipc jump instead of a mhz jump all the time... but ipc boosts are very scarce and are only notable in some applications that make use of new indstructions... and there are almost no mhz boosts anymore, yeah... its all about more cores now... more and more cores... :/

    Quote Originally Posted by mindfury View Post
    No,Quad performs much better in most cases .....
    define MUCH better please :P 5fps?
    better, yes, of course, MUCH better? not really...
    take into account price/perf and that we will be able to push 32nm dualcore chips higher than 45nm quads and they are at least even, if not the 32nm dualcore chips beating 45nm quads...

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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    define MUCH better please :P 5fps?
    better, yes, of course, MUCH better? not really...
    take into account price/perf and that we will be able to push 32nm dualcore chips higher than 45nm quads and they are at least even, if not the 32nm dualcore chips beating 45nm quads...
    You need read graphs again...

    Dont compare i5 750 at stock with i3 540@3.8g.....

    i5 750 at stock is mush stronger than i3 540 at stock....
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