http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15939/1/
Epic fail if true.
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15939/1/
Epic fail if true.
Originally Posted by terrace215
More guesswork on fud's side..GlobalFoundries will be ready to manufacture these CPUs as of second part of 2010 but it’s the AMD that they will have to wait, as it’s very unlikely that they will have production silicon that early..He believes it's "very unlikely for AMD to have production silicon that early".Move along.
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GF makes the silicon right? not AMD?GlobalFoundries will be ready to manufacture these CPUs as of second part of 2010 but it’s the AMD that they will have to wait, as it’s very unlikely that they will have production silicon that early.
Yeah, his English is not the best, and he garbled it, but I think he's trying to say that AMD won't be ready with the design in time. Or, possibly, that if GloFo is just getting 32nm going in H2 10, one would expect at least a year from first silicon to production for a new CPU arch. There's a lot of verification work, a few respins, ... even 18 months would not be out of the norm.
It would help if he mentioned/cited a source for this claim, though
Bad news if true... Very bad...
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AMD is doing very well in every other aspect of their business, but they can't catch a break with CPUs. They have top GPUs, with better to come in 2010, awesome chipsets, good server CPUs and platforms on the way, and even got the contract for the next XBox GPU. Global Foundries is even getting good contracts left and right.
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i reaally dont think this article is true. now all of their money can be focused on architecture. dresdenboy has given us some nice info on it and it looks impressive.
Um, no. Now they pay GloFo to make each wafer for them. The costs didn't magically go away, it's just that instead of process R&D and equipment capital, they now pay per part, like they pay TMSC to fab GPUs.
12-18 months would be typical from first silicon to production launch for a new CPU architecture. We've yet to see first silicon... has AMD said when they expect to have it back?
Hopefully this is one of Fuad's daydreaming kind of news.
That would certainly hurt AMD's CPU position nearly lethally.
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Lethally? Not sure, depends on pricing.
But high end would be certainly waaaaay out of reach.
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I think it's good,because PhenomIII can have a whole year of sale's and they would have a little more time to work with 32nm.
Good!? Istanbul already uses more silicon than a Nehalem (346mm˛ vs 263mm˛) for slightly worse performance. Thuban is basically just a desktop version of Istanbul, so if this is true then it means that the only chip AMD have for the next two years is slightly less profitable and slightly lower performing than what Intel has now.
If they don't have Bulldozer ready within a year then they will inevitably have to cut prices to compete against the even smaller, cheaper and faster Westmere/Nehalem-C and I'm not certain they will be able to turn a profit.
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The new revised Phenom will be based on 32nm
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They won't make a 32nm K10 shrink, and I think that the Phenom name will disappear with the Bulldozer family.
The Thuban will be Phenom II X6.
...and Lynnfield's die size is 296 mm2.
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First of all this is Fud's guesswork as usual,note the words he uses as i pointed out in my previous post. Second,AMD will make 32nm 10h MPU and this is the one that will be the basis of Llano(Fusion part).
nothing new really...
thats what amds message of their recently leaked/published roadmaps was... "we still dont have bulldozer, BUT we will have..."
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how much bs have they gotten out this month ?
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You didn't get the memo? 1 hour 'Fugger time' is equal to 12 hours of regular time.
With an increase in rumors and predictions floating around, what I think XS needs is a "Xtreme Rumor Mill" section that separates, fud, inq, semiaccurate and other rumors from actual news where you are also allowed to speculate how much you want. At least I've noticed a very noticable amount increase in rumors since I joined this forum in 2005. I don't think these "rumors"/speculations should be forbidden to post (as they can create interesting conversations) but it should be in an own section, this way news section would get more readerfriendly without the usual spam and doubtful fud source comments and look a lot more cleaner.
In fact I'm going to forward this opinion to Charles or create a post in the forum comments section in case mods miss this post.
EDIT: Please state your opinion in this thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=236640
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Wonder why FUD used symbols H2 2011.
Something like Q3 2022 would have made the news even worse.
Q3 2022 wouldn't make any sense. We'll all die at the end of 2012 as everyone knows
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It should honestly be against the rules to post FUD.
The fact that these fabricators of news get hits as a result of being linked here is sickening. They deserve to go out of business is what they deserve.
I dont think so, usualy after reading a few of these things you can usualy paint somewhat of a picture of whats going on.It should honestly be against the rules to post FUD.
The fact that these fabricators of news get hits as a result of being linked here is sickening. They deserve to go out of business is what they deserve.
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Recently Fuad and Charlie have been posting some pretty accurate leaks. Their sensationalistic analysis leaves a great deal to be desired, but the news element of their reporting has been fairly reliable.It should honestly be against the rules to post FUD.
The fact that these fabricators of news get hits as a result of being linked here is sickening. They deserve to go out of business is what they deserve.
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Fuad is the computer hardware journalistic equivalent of a tabloid magazine. Makes sense, he was cultivated at The Inquirer.It should honestly be against the rules to post FUD.
The fact that these fabricators of news get hits as a result of being linked here is sickening. They deserve to go out of business is what they deserve.
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