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    Quote Originally Posted by revogamer View Post
    lol NZ has stock right now, we are normally last to get
    I'm Turkish and we always get the parts quickly for some reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by annihilat0r View Post
    I'm Turkish and we always get the parts quickly for some reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by annihilat0r View Post
    I'm Turkish and we always get the parts quickly for some reason

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    Buy it and send to me, us poor swedes are always last on the list to get stuff, we're even behind the turks
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    I'm not sure why the card is doing so poorly; in specs it's better than the 4870, so why? Is the memory limiting it? It seems sort of counter productive for it to have more shaders, but have them not properly fed - it's like giving away unused potential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartidiot89 View Post


    Buy it and send to me, us poor swedes are always last on the list to get stuff, we're even behind the turks
    Here at Spain we don't get stuff earlier than you, I think. I always watch a little annoyed how other european countries like Germany, UK and so, get the stuff a weak or more before we do. Heck, I even only know of one shop in Madrid where you can buy a HD5850 (HD5870 it's on many more) and at a price tag of... 269€!

    Quote Originally Posted by cegras View Post
    I'm not sure why the card is doing so poorly; in specs it's better than the 4870, so why? Is the memory limiting it? It seems sort of counter productive for it to have more shaders, but have them not properly fed - it's like giving away unused potential.
    Where did you see how it's this card doing poorly against a 4870? I haven't seen any single useful comparison yet, apart from meaningful 3DMark values, and an AMD paper with some data that only God knows in wich test system and conditions is made...

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    Mini Review: HD4850 512MB vs HD5770 1GB
    http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33953894

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartidiot89 View Post


    Buy it and send to me, us poor swedes are always last on the list to get stuff, we're even behind the turks
    If I feel like it

    Not only we get the parts usually quicker, but they're almost always cheaper than other European countries. You guys get stuff for X Euros, it's usually X dollars here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onethreehill View Post
    Mini Review: HD4850 512MB vs HD5770 1GB
    http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33953894
    Looks about on part with a 4870..? Good, if you ask me. Not industry changing, but a good addition to AMD's arsenal.
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    i think it's higher than a 4870.

    Far cry for example, 31.79 average for 4850, 42.43 average for 5770, that's a 33.47% increase in average FPS, i doubt that a 4870 is 33% more powerfull than a 4850.
    Last edited by Florinmocanu; 10-12-2009 at 05:52 AM.

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    If these cards will OC like hell (1100-5.3Ghz soft modded) then they will sell like cupcakes otherwise 4890 @ 180$ is the way to go,I won't mention the second hand market where you could buy a 4890 for the same price as a 5750...
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    Quote Originally Posted by onethreehill View Post
    Mini Review: HD4850 512MB vs HD5770 1GB
    http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33953894
    killer card damn ati is humiliating nvidia in mid and low range als high now lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farinorco View Post
    Here at Spain we don't get stuff earlier than you, I think. I always watch a little annoyed how other european countries like Germany, UK and so, get the stuff a weak or more before we do. Heck, I even only know of one shop in Madrid where you can buy a HD5850 (HD5870 it's on many more) and at a price tag of... 269€!



    Where did you see how it's this card doing poorly against a 4870? I haven't seen any single useful comparison yet, apart from meaningful 3DMark values, and an AMD paper with some data that only God knows in wich test system and conditions is made...
    Well, just initial results, and some people summed it up as being between the 4870 and the 4890, while on paper it should be superior hardware-wise.
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    Hmm, somewhat disappointing results, well at least to me.

    Don't think this has been posted yet, it's probably one of the first few official reviews.

    5770:
    http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...036&cid=3&pg=1

    5750:
    http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/sh...24&postcount=1
    http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/sh...33&postcount=3

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    Quote Originally Posted by cegras View Post
    Well, just initial results, and some people summed it up as being between the 4870 and the 4890, while on paper it should be superior hardware-wise.
    1120 shaders was false, it does have 800.
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    I really hope we finally see some reviews with a variety of hardware. With some down in the meat of the market too, where the vast majority of enthusiasts sit. An enthusiast doesn't mean people with an unlimited bank account. There's also people with dual cores that would be interested in these cards, and it really doesn't make sense for reviewers to completely alienate that large user base. The same is true for the 5800 series; there are many people with performance and mainstream class hardware that would be interested in them. So it makes little sense to have 40 reviews ALL SHOWING THE SAME THING!

    I don't understand why there is so much resistance to using many combinations of different hardware, to accomodate as many people as possible. It would make things a whole lot more interesting, if not only for the fanboi wars alone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flippin_waffles View Post
    I really hope we finally see some reviews with a variety of hardware. With some down in the meat of the market too, where the vast majority of enthusiasts sit. An enthusiast doesn't mean people with an unlimited bank account. There's also people with dual cores that would be interested in these cards, and it really doesn't make sense for reviewers to completely alienate that large user base. The same is true for the 5800 series; there are many people with performance and mainstream class hardware that would be interested in them. So it makes little sense to have 40 reviews ALL SHOWING THE SAME THING!

    I don't understand why there is so much resistance to using many combinations of different hardware, to accomodate as many people as possible. It would make things a whole lot more interesting, if not only for the fanboi wars alone!
    There are 2 problems that keep reviewers away from using multiple/different setups.

    1> The time needed to make the benchmarks.
    2> The fact that most benchmarks with very high end cards end up CPU limited, thus failing to show the actual performance differences between the hardware.

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    5770 doesn't look impressive to me at all, card is too neutered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante80 View Post
    There are 2 problems that keep reviewers away from using multiple/different setups.

    1> The time needed to make the benchmarks.
    2> The fact that most benchmarks with very high end cards end up CPU limited, thus failing to show the actual performance differences between the hardware.
    Yes, I know that argument, but what i'm suggesting is not that each site have to do a million different combination of tests, but that each website write a review using only one set of supporting hardware, running at spec (and overclocked).

    It seems that all reviews written now, assume that everyone reading run their hardware at it's limits. I bet not very many do,
    Last edited by flippin_waffles; 10-12-2009 at 10:46 AM.

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    The Hardwarezone article doesn't look promising at all,the card has problems keeping pace with 4870 which can be bought for ~35$ less
    I was really hoping to get this card to replace my 4850 but I'd rather buy a 4890 second hand than this,it will save me some money also.
    ATi kinda failed with this card,too much inspiration from Nvidia..... now let's see some OC!
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    I think that...
    800 SP + 128 bits + GDDR5 = bottleneck..
    guess what 1600 + 256 bits + GDDR5 means... right... bottleneck..
    I think that the 5770 shows exactly the problem of the 58xx series...

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    Quote Originally Posted by revogamer View Post
    lol NZ has stock right now, we are normally last to get
    Gimme gimme

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florinmocanu View Post
    I think that...
    800 SP + 128 bits + GDDR5 = bottleneck..
    guess what 1600 + 256 bits + GDDR5 means... right... bottleneck..
    I think that the 5770 shows exactly the problem of the 58xx series...
    i think your right

    lets compare

    4870:
    Core 800 SPs and 750 Mhz
    Ram 115 GBs

    5870:
    Core 1600 SPs and 850 Mhz
    Ram 153 GBs

    the Core is about 225% faster
    the Ram is only 33% faster

    what happened to the 7GHz GDDR5 i herd we already have. the 5890 better be fing leet and break 200GBs

    i also think ATI should have gone with 384 bit ram, it would have cost a little more, but i think they would be much stronger, maybe too strong.

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    Only problem with your bandwidth hypothesis is that OCing RAM doesn't give the appropriate performance gain one would assume it would if it were bottlenecked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marten_larsson View Post
    Only problem with your bandwidth hypothesis is that OCing RAM doesn't give the appropriate performance gain one would assume it would if it were bottlenecked.
    then ill just say the drivers arent mature enough to let the ram be the bottleneck, it seems like the easy way to win this argument.

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