The ATI Radeon 5XXX Thread

[Jamesrt2004]

That's an interesting question. I don't know, but tipping $599, or maybe is hope for $549? Just a wild guess, tho.

they said theirselves $499 so its all good

[Crow-]

they said theirselves $499 so its all good

$499 is not bad...

[Jamesrt2004]

$499 is not bad...

I think if its that price it's also hinting at a price drop to 200/300 $ for 5850/5870 fingers crossed aye

[Sam_oslo]

$499 for 5870x2 at launch would be a great price, and in case, it would affect the 5850 and 5870 prices too, for sure.

I have seen a Sapphire 5870 on sale with 10% discount on my local e-tailer in Norway earlier today, and was surprised that they had a discount so early. I was about to hit on it, but had planned to wait for price and performance of 5872x2 first. It was a good price and very tempting, but now I'm happy that i didn't hit on it. The pleasure would be too short. They had 35 in stock, and when i went back after 20 min. all was gone.

[Mungri]

Think I'll be grabbing a 5870 2 GB for christmas (people give me money, but rarely more than £50 total), and of course selling my 4870's.

God my power consumption will reduce sooo much lol.

Waiting for the price to come down which it usually does. Around £225 will be fine if I can sell both 4870s for £75.

[Crow-]

Think I'll be grabbing a 5870 2 GB for christmas (people give me money, but rarely more than £50 total), and of course selling my 4870's.

God my power consumption will reduce sooo much lol.

Waiting for the price to come down which it usually does. Around £225 will be fine if I can sell both 4870s for £75.

When nvidia release GT300 prices will go down

[Lightman]

Anyone?

I've just done conversion of .avi file to H264 1080p .mp4 file using CCC Video Converter in Vista x64.

So in short YES, it works

[Utnorris]

I've just done conversion of .avi file to H264 1080p .mp4 file using CCC Video Converter in Vista x64.

So in short YES, it works

Well, the reason I ask is when they first released it back in December it had issues with x64 where you would not get any sound. It's good to hear that it works now. I will give it a try this week once I get my HD5870 in.
Thanks.

[To(V)bo Co(V)bo]

Anyone else think that Ati might have initially deperfomanced the 5 series at launch on purpose to seemingly show lower performance numbers. Then after a month or two there will be some new driver that increases the performance 20-30% across the board. Maybe they did this to fool nvidia into thinking the cards are slower, and then bam gt300 killers in desquiese. I wouldnt be surprised, these things should be performing way faster considering no crossfire overhead. Or these drivers are very badly unoptimised.

[Jakethesnake011]

when overclocking with msi afterburner I am unable to set my clocks past 900 core and 1300 memory and when I do try to apply the clocks the slider just drops back down to the 900 and 1300 limit... any ideas?

[flopper]

when overclocking with msi afterburner I am unable to set my clocks past 900 core and 1300 memory and when I do try to apply the clocks the slider just drops back down to the 900 and 1300 limit... any ideas?

need a unlocked bios (ccc) or use amd gpu tool to set clocks.

[hurleybird]

Anyone else think that Ati might have initially deperfomanced the 5 series at launch on purpose to seemingly show lower performance numbers. Then after a month or two there will be some new driver that increases the performance 20-30% across the board. Maybe they did this to fool nvidia into thinking the cards are slower, and then bam gt300 killers in desquiese. I wouldnt be surprised, these things should be performing way faster considering no crossfire overhead. Or these drivers are very badly unoptimised.

Yeah, that's a very popular theory, although I don't think they would sabatoge performance on puprose. Chances are drivers just need more work, and we'll see if there are any new better performing drivers when 5770 launches, and then afterwards when GT300 does.

[To(V)bo Co(V)bo]

Yeah, that's a very popular theory, although I don't think they would sabatoge performance on puprose. Chances are drivers just need more work, and we'll see if there are any new better performing drivers when 5770 launches, and then afterwards when GT300 does.

I think they kept voltages extremely conservative and also implemented alot energy saving optimizations as to why these are underperforming. It looks very good on paper to have such a efficient gpu. As soon as nvidia releases the gt300 Ill bet ati releases a 5890 with voltages cranked to get 1000mhz on the core. Most 5870's right now easilty hit the 1gig mark with voltage tweaks, and lets not forget these are just the first reference wave of cards. Just wait till they release 3rd party custom cards. I can see 950~1000mhz clocked cards easily coming out around christmas. Ill also bet there will be some new amazing driver around the same time, just in time for all the second batches of reviews. This is when we will really see the 5 series start to shine. Thats the nature of computer hardware, they always get your tounge wet with new hardware thaat you buy right away, then a few months later they make a better one that you have to have and buy that too. Just ask my wife she will tell you all about it. How many i7 920's have you bought trying to get that golden DO.

[flopper]

I think they kept voltages extremely conservative and also implemented alot energy saving optimizations as to why these are underperforming. It looks very good on paper to have such a efficient gpu. As soon as nvidia releases the gt300 Ill bet ati releases a 5890 with voltages cranked to get 1000mhz on the core. Most 5870's right now easilty hit the 1gig mark with voltage tweaks, and lets not forget these are just the first reference wave of cards. Just wait till they release 3rd party custom cards. I can see 950~1000mhz clocked cards easily coming out around christmas. Ill also bet there will be some new amazing driver around the same time, just in time for all the second batches of reviews. This is when we will really see the 5 series start to shine. Thats the nature of computer hardware, they always get your tounge wet with new hardware thaat you buy right away, then a few months later they make a better one that you have to have and buy that too. Just ask my wife she will tell you all about it. How many i7 920's have you bought trying to get that golden DO.

1ghz is minimum.
Its just for the marketing, here is the 1ghz videocard for you, own it today and rock the world of games.
That is what I would suggest to ati to make it 1ghz+, as that is such a selling argument, why buy 700mhz cpu when u can get a 1ghz??
Numbers are magical for some

edit: heh the world is started to sync up to my mind
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news...-3tflops!.aspx

[dqniel]

I can game for hours in Windows 7 x64 (CoD4, NFS:Shift, HL2, etc) on my Sapphire HD 5870 without issues. No FPS drops, no artifacting, no crashes. However, I get VPU recoveries and occasionally screen blackouts and freezes when doing simple things such as viewing flash players online (Youtube, etc) or watching videos with media players (MPC, MPC HC). I've tried the drivers that came with the card, the drivers on ATI's website, and even MSI's supposed RC8 release. Anybody else having stability issues in Windows 7 x64? I'm wondering if it's just a driver issue or if there's a hardware issue at play here. Also, I forgot to mention that I have locked the PCI-E at 100Mhz.

Thanks for your input.

[flopper]

I can game for hours in Windows 7 x64 (CoD4, NFS:Shift, HL2, etc) on my Sapphire HD 5870 without issues. No FPS drops, no artifacting, no crashes. However, I get VPU recoveries and occasionally screen blackouts and freezes when doing simple things such as viewing flash players online (Youtube, etc) or watching videos with media players (MPC, MPC HC). I've tried the drivers that came with the card, the drivers on ATI's website, and even MSI's supposed RC8 release. Anybody else having stability issues in Windows 7 x64? I'm wondering if it's just a driver issue or if there's a hardware issue at play here. Also, I forgot to mention that I have locked the PCI-E at 100Mhz.

Thanks for your input.

had some issues.
related to overclocking and amd gpu tool
win 7 rc.

[Razrback16]

Anyone else think that Ati might have initially deperfomanced the 5 series at launch on purpose to seemingly show lower performance numbers. Then after a month or two there will be some new driver that increases the performance 20-30% across the board. Maybe they did this to fool nvidia into thinking the cards are slower, and then bam gt300 killers in desquiese. I wouldnt be surprised, these things should be performing way faster considering no crossfire overhead. Or these drivers are very badly unoptimised.

I wouldn't be surprised either. It may seem shady at first, but really, a pretty good business decision.

[Leeghoofd]

I hope the drivers are just badly optimised, I had serious performance issues all over the place when pretesting with multi cards... something is not 100% (if they did it on purpose I don't think so)

[Razrback16]

I hope the drivers are just badly optimised, I had serious performance issues all over the place when pretesting with multi cards... something is not 100% (if they did it on purpose I don't think so)

Well, if there are actual issues with the card (or multi-gpu setups) I wouldn't expect that to be planned, but I could see them implementing a driver tweak to force the card to only utilize x% of it's potential and then in a later driver release at a more..."opportune" time release a driver that unlocks it to 100% performance in order to give the competition a false initial benchmark to compete against.

[Vinas]

I can game for hours in Windows 7 x64 (CoD4, NFS:Shift, HL2, etc) on my Sapphire HD 5870 without issues. No FPS drops, no artifacting, no crashes. However, I get VPU recoveries and occasionally screen blackouts and freezes when doing simple things such as viewing flash players online (Youtube, etc) or watching videos with media players (MPC, MPC HC). I've tried the drivers that came with the card, the drivers on ATI's website, and even MSI's supposed RC8 release. Anybody else having stability issues in Windows 7 x64? I'm wondering if it's just a driver issue or if there's a hardware issue at play here. Also, I forgot to mention that I have locked the PCI-E at 100Mhz.

Thanks for your input.

Running nice here at 1000/1350... If you have the asus oc doctor installed it uses a driver that causes driver resets (a lot). So if you have that uninstall it.

Other than that win7 x64 is a beauty with this card. Granted a slight soft vmod is essential for good clocks. For 1000/1350 I run 1.24v... Temps are pretty great too, the stock cooler is THAT GOOD (my god have you heard the fan on high -- pushes out more air than my deltas)...

What are your temps like? I noticed the stock fan settings are pretty weak.

[dqniel]

Running nice here at 1000/1350... If you have the asus oc doctor installed it uses a driver that causes driver resets (a lot). So if you have that uninstall it.

Other than that win7 x64 is a beauty with this card. Granted a slight soft vmod is essential for good clocks. For 1000/1350 I run 1.24v... Temps are pretty great too, the stock cooler is THAT GOOD (my god have you heard the fan on high -- pushes out more air than my deltas)...

What are your temps like? I noticed the stock fan settings are pretty weak.

Temps are fine. It doesn't seem to be a heat/load issue when crashing otherwise I don't think I'd be able to game without any problems. I'm thinking I must have a combination of drivers/programs that don't like each other and I just need to figure out which one(s) causing the problem

Also my card does it whether it's overclocked or not, and as of right now the voltage and clocks are both at default with no OCing software installed... until I figure out what the issue is.

Thanks for your reply!

[Utnorris]

Just joined the club, sweet card, but definitely needs driver work. That should come though, ATI has always delivered in that area, well drivers that is, maybe not always good, but at least they tried.

[Ch3ck5um]

Looking forward to the 5870x2

[WheelMan]

Looking forward to the 5870x2

Looking forward to my dual i7-rig shining with 5870 Eyefinity6 + 5870x2

[JohnJohn]

Guys, sorry for the lame question, does eyefinity support monitors of different resolution ? I need to couple a 22´with a 24´. I am not planing on gaming on these, they are just for work